1-Sep-84 22:42:48-MDT,1548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 1 Sep 84 22:42:42-MDT Date: Sat, 1 Sep 84 23:47:26 EDT From: David Towson (SECAD) To: info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA, edens@Almsa-1.ARPA Subject: [Crede Edens: Transfer utility information] Can anyone help with this request? PLEASE send any replies to Crede directly, as I will be on vacation, and my mailbox will be untended for awhile. Thanks. Dave (AKA info-cpm-request) towson@amsaa ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: From almsa-1.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 31 Aug 84 9:51 EDT Date: Fri, 31 Aug 84 8:45:26 CDT From: Crede Edens To: towson@Amsaa.ARPA cc: edens@ALMSA-1.ARPA Subject: Transfer utility information David, I used to be included on your distribution list for INFO-CPM until we were moved to another host which can't support a large amount of message traffic. (This may soon be changed, I hope.) I enjoyed very much the information I received from it. A member of our users group needs some information and I know of no better source than INFO-CPM participants. Would you please ask them if they know of a utility (public domain or copywrited) that can read files on a MS-DOS dik and transfer them to a CP/M- 80 or CP/M-86 disk? Since I don't have access to INFO-CPM would yu have them send answers to EDENS@ALMSA-1? Thank you for your help. Crede EDENS@ALMSA-1 ----- End of forwarded messages 1-Sep-84 23:29:26-MDT,621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 1 Sep 84 23:29:22-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 0:53 EDT Date: 1 Sep 1984 22:57 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: MDM7/MEX Overlay wanted Not on the list of known overlays is one needed for a Vector Graphics SX machine. If anyone knows of the whereabouts of a MDM7xx or MEX overlay for the "Asynchonous Serial Port", please net mail me a message. Thanks, --Frank 2-Sep-84 05:44:43-MDT,744;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 05:44:40-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 7:22 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a009472; 2 Sep 84 7:16 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 2 Sep 84 4:03-PDT Date: 30 Aug 84 14:21:46-PDT (Thu) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!ndz@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Modem7 Request Article-I.D.: ariel.746 I am trying to get modem7 working on a Chameleon protocol analyzer. I need the source code for the I/O routines for the 8251 usart. Thanks, Nelson D. Zeroth 201-834-3214 ihnp4!ariel!ndz 2-Sep-84 08:56:11-MDT,976;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 08:56:07-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 10:34 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a009704; 2 Sep 84 10:32 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 2 Sep 84 7:18-PDT Date: 31 Aug 84 6:24:21-PDT (Fri) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!hao!seismo!brl-tgr!abc@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: I/O Calls in 2.2 Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.4354 <> I am running CP/M 2.2 on a TRS-80 with the OKIDATA modification (so that "vanilla" CP/M code will execute unmodified). At present I'm trying to bring up a small-C compiler and it needs primitives for getchar() and putchar(). Surely someone has solved this already. What's the easiest way to do this -- calls to the BIOS? -- to BDOS? -- custom code? All solutions will be appreciated. As usual, sufficient interest will produce a summary to net.micro.cpm 2-Sep-84 10:27:26-MDT,1100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 10:27:22-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 11:55 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a009840; 2 Sep 84 11:57 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 2 Sep 84 8:42-PDT Date: 30 Aug 84 18:12:13-PDT (Thu) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ihnp4!houxm!hogpc!pegasus!mel@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Morrow MD3 to IBM PC file copy ? Article-I.D.: pegasus.1674 Help please. I use WordStar, SuperCalc 2, and dBase II on both a Morrow MD3 and an AT&T 6300 (IBM PC alike), and would like to be able to interchange data files between the two. The Morrow can write IBM CPM-86 disks (and Osborne I and Xerox 820), but not PC-DOS/MS-DOS disks. I called several of the advertisers of CP/M to PC-DOS disk copy programs, but none claim to be able to go MD3 to IBM or visa-versa. Does anyone have first hand experience with a method to do this? Please reply to me, I'll summarize to these newsgroups. Thanks. Mel Haas ihnp4!houxe!mel 2-Sep-84 10:47:22-MDT,1028;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 10:47:17-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 12:26 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a009882; 2 Sep 84 12:22 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 2 Sep 84 9:11-PDT Date: 29 Aug 84 13:18:00-PDT (Wed) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: pur-ee!uiucdcs!uokvax!mike@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Re: dBase II .cmd Program Beta-Testors W - (nf) Article-I.D.: uokvax.7900015 In-Reply-To: Article <804@sri-arpa.UUCP> #R:sri-arpa:-80400:uokvax:7900015:000:359 uokvax!mike Aug 29 15:18:00 1984 I'll try it out. I have an Epson QX-10, and I also have access to an HP-150, an HP-110, and an IBM PC/[XT,AT]. I've taught a couple of dBASE II courses, and have written a full scale inventory/invoicing/purchasing system that is currently being used by my former employer. I do not have ARPA access. Mike Heath Univ. of Oklahoma ctvax!uokvax!mike 2-Sep-84 11:49:15-MDT,6496;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 11:48:57-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 13:07 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a009961; 2 Sep 84 13:07 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 2 Sep 84 9:59-PDT Date: 31 Aug 84 10:53:04-PDT (Fri) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!hao!seismo!cmcl2!lanl-a!rgt@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Responses to request for CP/M and MS-DOS books question Article-I.D.: lanl-a.12856 <> I sent out a request for in-depth books on CP/M and MS-DOS. Here is an edited list of the responses. Thanks to all! Richard Thomsen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!utmbvax!mmr (Mike Rubenstein) Subject: Re: Request for CP/M and MS-DOS in-depth books Only book I've found that explains much is Inside CP/M by David E Cortesi (Holt, Rinehart and Winston). It's primarily about CP/M-80, but the file structure for CP/M-86 is the same. You also should get hold of one of the public domain programs for looking at the disk by sector. Best known is DU in both CP/M-80 and CP/M-86 versions. Just about any RCPM (CP/M bulletin board) will have the CP/M-80 version. Larger ones will have the CP/M-86 version also. Good luck. CP/M's pretty simple, but the poor documentation makes it pretty hard to figure out what's going on. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Van Cleef Subject: Re: Request for CP/M and MS-DOS in-depth books ------- "Inside CP/M" - Jerry Coretese (sp). The best I've seen for CP/M 80. R.E. Van Cleef (REVC) Computer Sciences Corporation San Diego, CA ihnp4 \ MILNET revc@nosc akgua \ UUCP decvax -------------!sdcsvax!noscvax!revc dcdwest / ucbvax / CompuServe 71565,533 ------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Stork Subject: Request for CP/M and MS-DOS in-depth books For CP/M 80 (2.2), you cannot beat Andy Johnson-Laird's The Program,mer's CP/M Handbook, pub by Osborne/McGraw Hill. I have read just about every book I coyuld find on CP{/M and that's the best by far. Good luck, Eric ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cmcl2!ihnp4!alberta!jeff Subject: Re: Request for CP/M and MS-DOS in-depth books The Programmer's CP/M Handbook, by Andy Johnson-Laird (Osborne/Mcgraw-Hill) was reviewed in this month's BYTE, and they say that it was quite good. If you buy an uninstalled version of CP/M-80 or -86 you should also get lots of info. As for MS-DOS, forget it. They don't believe in giving out info about it, everything you will get is in the manuals they give you. If you have almost no technical information, you could try buying the IBM DOS 2.1 Technical Refrence Manual, but that's about it. MS-DOS isn't a very good operating system anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------------- C. J. Sampson Snail Canada: #712 11135-83rd ave. ihnp4! \ Edmonton, Alberta ubc-vision! |- alberta!jeff CANADA T6G 2C8 sask! / Phone: (403) 439-6851 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cmcl2!seismo!decvax!linus!utzoo!aesat!bmw Subject: Re: Request for CP/M and MS-DOS in-depth books Take a look at "The Programmer's CP/M Handbook" by Andy Johnson-Laird, published by Osborne/McGraw-Hill. I read the review of it in the August '84 Byte (pg 90) and purchased it last week. I am a fairly experienced CP/M programmer (I have done a complete port of CP/M to my home-brew Z80 with hard disk and non-standard floppies), but this book has helped me a lot by revealing some useful tricks/gotchas and other info which is missing or poorly documented in the DR manuals. It also contains a LOT of source, either in ASM or in BDS/C, for a complete BIOS as well as a bunch of enhanced utilities. Almost all meat and no fat! Bruce Walker ..decvax!utzoo!aesat!bmw [Note: There was posted on the net a set of corrections for this book. I do not have the corrections on-line, however. Richard Thomsen] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbl-csam!noao!jacoby Subject: MS-DOS books I have also been looking for more in-depth books than "type dir for a disk directory" sort of thing. Not much out there. I have found one book that is intermediate and well written: The IBM PC-DOS Handbook, Richard Allen King, Sybex publication, $17. Please let me know if you find anything better. George Jacoby ihnp4!noao!jacoby ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cmcl2!rna!rocky2!datagen!boykin Subject: MS-DOS books Welcome to SIG/86!! The International MS-DOS Users Group SIG/86 is an International MS-DOS Users Group dedicated to the sharing of knowledge and software among its members. Our group is composed of owners and users of any manufacturers' hardware which supports MS-DOS. To our members we offer a quarterly newsletter, public domain software, discounts on commercially available software, a bulletin board, and much much more. [Note: This group charges $18/year membership fee. If you need more information, contact Joe Boykin or me. Richard Thomsen Joseph Boykin, SIG/86 47-4 Sheridan Drive Shrewsbury, MA 01545 cmcl2!rna!rocky2!datagen!boykin ] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Original-From: George W. Sherouse Subject: Re: Request for CP/M and MS-DOS in-depth books DEC does have technical references for both OSs, though their sales people don't seem to know it. I have ordered both and have had considerable trouble getting them. The latest word is that I will have them real soon. Check with me in a while for a review. George W. Sherouse 2-Sep-84 12:40:18-MDT,578;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 12:40:13-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 14:08 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a010041; 2 Sep 84 14:04 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 2 Sep 84 10:56-PDT Date: 31 Aug 84 9:39:38-PDT (Fri) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: harpo!bob@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Dead or alive? Article-I.D.: harpo.2600 I haven't seen any new items here since 8/11. Do we have a problem or is the net inactive? 2-Sep-84 13:36:13-MDT,715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 13:36:10-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 14:59 EDT Received: from bbna.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a010099; 2 Sep 84 15:00 EDT Date: 2 Sep 1984 14:59-EDT Sender: WAGREICH@bbna.ARPA Subject: How to access SIMTEL20? From: WAGREICH@bbna.ARPA To: info-micro@brl.ARPA, info-cpm@brl.ARPA Message-ID: <[BBNA] 2-Sep-84 14:59:10.WAGREICH> Could someone tell me how to access sIMTEL20? What is the username/password to be used? How do you find out what files are available on the system? Can you use FTP and TELNET to access SIMTEL20? Thanks in advance for your help. 2-Sep-84 20:31:29-MDT,1624;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 20:31:21-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 22:05 EDT Date: 2 Sep 1984 20:09 MDT (Sun) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: ihnp4!houxm!hogpc!pegasus!mel@Ucb-Vax.ARPA Cc: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Morrow MD3 to IBM PC file copy ? In-reply-to: Msg of 30 Aug 1984 19:12-MDT from ihnp4!houxm!hogpc!pegasus!mel at UCB-VAX.ARPA Why don't you hook the RS-232 serial ports (normally used for a modem) "back-to-back" and use some version of MODEM/MODEM7/XMODEM on both machines to do the transfers at 9600 baud? Here's the gist of how it's done: Use any version of Ward Christensen's MODEM program (MODEM7xx, MDM7xx, MODEM2xx) and connect the two machines together using RS-232 serial port. Set the ports for 8 data bits, one stop bit and no parity. Reverse the connections on pins 2 and 3 on ONE END of the cable connecting the two machines. Make sure the baud rate is identical on both. Test path using the "T"(terminal) mode on each MODEM program before trying transfers. You should be able to type on one machine and see it on the other. Set baud rate for highest that will support error-free transfers (I use 4800 baud). Initially start at 1200 (or even 300) baud to debug the connections. If you use MDM7xx, you'll be able to use the "B"(batch) mode which allows multiple transfers with commands specifying ambiguous names (like SB B:*.*). --Keith 2-Sep-84 21:46:08-MDT,2214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 2 Sep 84 21:46:01-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 2 Sep 84 23:16 EDT Received: from simtel20.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a010656; 2 Sep 84 23:10 EDT Date: 2 Sep 1984 21:10 MDT (Sun) Message-ID: From: Richard Conn To: info-cpm@brl.ARPA Subject: ZCPR3 Bugs Several bugs have been reported and verified in some ZCPR3 tools. These bugs will be corrected. Until such corrections are issued, however, Echelon is publishing a list of these bugs in their newsletter so the community will be aware of them and not surprised if they encounter them. I will be posting this newsletter (as well as the others) to the net as I receive them. One bug reported with MENU, where when the user strikes an invalid menu option immediately followed by a CR, is serious enough (especially for those who want to use MENU for RCPM operation) that the changes to the source code required to correct this bug will be posted in a newsletter before the new MENU is released. The current plans are to release the Phase 2 software VERY SOON NOW. I am cleaning up the doc (HLP files) on Z3LIB and making sure that all of the doc is in place and correct on the tools. The book is coming along ... my publisher is very, very busy with it. No major hitches so far. The book will cover all of the ZCPR3 software (both phase 1 and phase 2). I am currently in contract negotiations for the second book, which is dedicated to the libraries available under ZCPR3. Some time after the Phase 2 release, a "bug disk" will be released thru Echelon (I will see that a copy gets into SIG/M and SIMTEL20). I suspect a 1-2 month gap between Phase 2 and the "bug disk". Echelon is acting as THE central, configuration control point for ZCPR3. If you want to report an alleged bug or recommend a change to a tool, please do so thru Echelon. You can do it thru me, but it is much, much easier on me if Echelon handles it so that I can go ahead with the rest of the work and see only one copy of each bug report/request. Rick 3-Sep-84 07:37:59-MDT,835;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 07:37:55-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 9:05 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a011261; 3 Sep 84 9:05 EDT Date: 3 September 1984 09:05-EDT From: "Allan D. Plehn" Subject: PLOT33 files available as library file. To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA I have put all the PLOT33 files (announced a few days ago) into a .lib file for the convenience of those who would like to pick up the entire set of files in one swell foop. The file is on MIT-MC in the file GUEST4;PLEHN PLTLBR. You have to have FTP capability to retrieve the file. MIT-MC accepts the ANONYMOUS login. I'll leave the file there for at least three days. Al Plehn 3-Sep-84 07:39:10-MDT,1153;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 07:39:05-MDT Received: From cmu-cs-c.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 9:09 EDT Received: ID ; Mon 3 Sep 84 08:54:42-EDT Date: Mon 3 Sep 84 08:54:41-EDT From: Lee.Sailer@CMU-CS-C.ARPA Subject: morrow <--> pc To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA So far, Media Master (about $75, look for add in Byte) has got me back and forth between an MD3 and a Rainbow. It claims to do MS-DOS and PC-DOS too. Actually, the Rainbow version only handles one-sided disks, but the Morrow can be told to look at one-side only using FOREIGN, and then requesting MD2. I once used UNIFORM on Kaypro, and was impressed. You tell Uniform that b: is a xxx disk, and then, form then on, it is. You can run programs, transfer files, or whatever. TMedia Master is more self contained--you tell it what type of disk is on A, what on B, and then can copy, delete, rename, or whatever. But you can't run sweep, say. FILETRAN, which I had some time ago, never worked very well. But they are on a later version now. ------- ------- 3-Sep-84 07:48:55-MDT,495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 07:48:52-MDT Received: From cmu-cs-c.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 9:14 EDT Received: ID ; Mon 3 Sep 84 09:00:05-EDT Date: Mon 3 Sep 84 09:00:05-EDT From: Lee.Sailer@CMU-CS-C.ARPA Subject: ms-dos To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I vote NO on a MSDOS BBoard. I would rather see MS-DOS and CPM people argue for awhile about the relative merits. ------- 3-Sep-84 08:21:34-MDT,616;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 08:21:30-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 9:35 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a011343; 3 Sep 84 9:34 EDT Date: 3 September 1984 09:34-EDT From: "Allan D. Plehn" Subject: PLOT33 library file on MIT-MC, one file missing from library. To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA Oops, I forgot to include FILLS.BAS in the .lib file. Rather than upload the whole library again, I've placed this small BASIC file in GUEST4;PLEHN FILLS. Al Plehn 3-Sep-84 10:11:56-MDT,1292;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 10:11:50-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 11:47 EDT Date: Saturday, 1 September 1984 10:46-MDT Message-ID: Sender: jpm@Bnl.ARPA From: jpm@Bnl.ARPA To: Info-Micro@Brl.ARPA Subject: Charges filed in Mog-Ur BBS case ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA ReSent-To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA ReSent-Date: Mon 3 Sep 1984 09:50-MDT The Los Angeles city attorney has filed criminal charages against the Sysop of the Mog-Ur BBS because of credit card numbers posted on his system. You may recall that his system was previously confiscated by police and then later returned. At the time the machine was returned the city attorney said they were not going to file charges for lack of evidence. It seems great pressure was brought on top levels of the city attorney's office so they decided to go back on their agreement not to prosecute. A preliminary hearing has been scheduled for late next week at which time we should know more about what is going on. I will keep the net informed as I get news. John McNamee ..!decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl!jpm jpm@Bnl.Arpa "Use a modem, Go to jail" 3-Sep-84 10:25:20-MDT,4901;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 10:25:05-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 11:47 EDT Date: Sunday, 2 September 1984 10:44-MDT Message-ID: Sender: jpm@Bnl.ARPA From: jpm@Bnl.ARPA To: Info-Micro@Brl.ARPA Subject: Latest news on Mog-Ur BBS case ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA ReSent-To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA ReSent-Date: Mon 3 Sep 1984 09:51-MDT The following two messages are related to the current Mog-Ur BBS situation. There was another messsage along with these asking for donations for a defense fund, but I am not forwarding it because it might upset the Arpanet people. Msg # 10733 on 08/31/84 at 09:35:50 From: SYSOP (1) To: ALL Subject: MOG-UR/PACTEL UPDATE (AND I THOUGHT WE WERE THROUGH WITH THIS)! Owing to a difficult work schedule this week and the fact that I broke both my ankles, which are now in casts, it has been hard for me to quickly determine the facts and post same. In addition, my attorney, Chuck Lindner, is trying a death penalty case and therefore difficult to reach. The info that I have is as follows: The L.A. City Attorney went back on his word not to prosecute and breeched the agreement that he had with my attorney. The City Attorney contends that they held a meeting for which PacTel flew down to attend, and since we were not present they allowed Pactel to present their case alone. NEITHER CHUCK NOR MYSELF WERE EVER INFORMED OF THIS MEETING! As a result of that (they claim), they decided that they were going to file charges... Chuck has indicated to me that political pressure was brought to bear at the very highest level of the City Attorneys office and THAT is why they suddenly broke their word, did not inform anyone, and decided to take the action thay did! Needless to say, Chuck is furious and told me intends to perform some rearrangement of their anatomy as a result of this! He is of the opinion that this latest action is totally politically motivated. He also had some other comments and conclusions but I had best not quote them in an open message! Chuck is taking it as a personal afront and has so informed the filing attorney. I think that I need not mention how I am taking it and what my position is! I will have more information and details this weekend and will post them as I learn them. In the meantime, there ARE things that anyone who is concerned can do: Write Ira Reiner, the L.A. City Attorney (Suite 1800, City Hall East, 200 N. Main St., L.A., CA 90012), and let him know exactly how you feel about this situation specifically and/or make any favorable comments that you feel appropriate regarding me and the system. Feel free to lambast him, it is now more than appropriate! It doesnt have to be a literary work of art but write! Also, please copy me with any correspondence that you may send. Second, I need to compile a list of everyone (users and sysops alike) who would be willing to attend the arraingement hearing (date TBA) and offer testimony in my behalf (Chuck would like as many people as possible there and, more important, at the trial if it goes that far). Please tell everyone you know, every sysop, and spread these messages around the systems you access all over the country! Oh yes, the section of the code that they plan to charge me under (I may have listed the number incorrectly earlier) is that pertaining to "COMPUTER CRIME USING CREDIT CARDS"... Remember!!! WRITE THE LETTERS TO IRA REINER AND GET ME NAMES, ADDRESS, AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS OF THOSE WILLING TO TESTIFY! AND SPREAD THE MESSAGES! Tom Tcimpidis The Mog-ur's HBBS P.O. box 5236 Mission Hills, CA 91345 Voice 818-366-4827 Mog-ur's BBS 818-366-1238 Charles (Chuck) Lindner 304 S. Broadway, Room 422 L.A., CA 90014 > End of msg # 10733 from SYSOP (1) < Msg # 10721 on 08/29/84 at 22:51:07 From: PEGGY WATT (7) To: Subject: CHARGES AGAINST TOM <13> To: all concerned BBS users From: Peggy Watt, InfoWorld reporter I thought the telephone company and city of L.A. had decided not to press charges against Tom (so did he!) but since they have, I'm back to covering the question of sysop liability for messages...I'm interested in any and all comments on the issue, observations, and reports on what other sysops are doing to protect themselves. I understand Tom's attorney, Chuck Lindner, is relying on good sysop support, and I want to follow that, too. Feel free to leave me messages/comments on this board, or contact me at InfoWorld (800-344-INFO). Thanks, Peggy. > End of msg # 10721 from PEGGY WATT (7) < -- John McNamee ..!decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl jpm@Bnl.Arpa "Use a modem, Go to jail" 3-Sep-84 20:56:58-MDT,641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 3 Sep 84 20:56:52-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 3 Sep 84 22:22 EDT Date: 3 Sep 1984 20:25 MDT (Mon) Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Wanted: BYE/XMODEM/ZCPR2 for Model II Has anyone worked out a BYE, XMODEM, and ZCPR2 for a TRS-80 Model II using the P&T CP/M? The external modem in this case is a UDS 212 A/D. Pointers to any one (or more) of these items would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --Frank 4-Sep-84 09:31:49-MDT,765;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 09:31:37-MDT Received: From hi-multics.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 4 Sep 84 10:51 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Sep 84 00:00 CDT From: SMiller@HI-MULTICS.ARPA Subject: BAUDOT <-> ASCII converts To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA Message-ID: <840903050046.639821@HI-MULTICS.ARPA> I don't know the model number off hand, but the Black Box Company has a protocol converter that will make Baudot play with Ascii. The one I' know of is in use taking data from a US weather service line and feeding the data to the telemetry system used by the South Coast Air Quality Management District. (The SMOG people here in Souther California.) -Scott 4-Sep-84 10:07:44-MDT,4108;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 10:07:28-MDT Received: From brl-voc.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 4 Sep 84 10:55 EDT Date: Tue, 4 Sep 84 9:24:46 EDT From: "Ferd Brundick (VLD/LTTB)" To: Info-Pascal@Brl-Voc.ARPA, Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA cc: Meself Subject: Turbo Pascal patch Haah, Several months ago someone requested a patch for Turbo Pascal so that it would automatically load the error message overlay file without asking the user first. Well, this weekend I finally poked around and wrote a patch for both Z-80 versions (1.0 and 2.0). In essence, what happens is that Turbo displays the question, calls a subroutine to read the response, and stores the response. The yes_or_no sbr returns a 0 if the answer was 'N', and non-zero (I didn't check the exact value) if the answer was 'Y'. Turbo then loads the message file if the zero flag is not set. The patch given below overwrites the call to the "display string" function and the start of the message. It clears the A register, adds one to clear the zero flag, and branches past the call to yes_or_no. If don't you want to load the error file, change the increment instruction to a no_op. When the patched Turbo is run, the copyright message will be displayed until the error file has been loaded, then it will display the "main" menu. If the error file is not being loaded, the c-r message will be displayed briefly, to be replaced by the main menu. Remember, this patch is for the Z-80 versions, altho a similar patch could probably be used for the IBM version. NOTE: in the patches below, all user input is in lower case, and comments to the patcher are in brackets []. ------------------------------------------------------------ Patch for Z-80 version 1.0 A> ddt turbo.com DDT VERS 2.2 NEXT PC 6F00 0100 -d1e40,1e6f [ display original code ] 1E40 6E 63 2E 0D 0A 0A 00 21 23 01 CD A5 01 CD F8 01 nc.....!#....... 1E50 0D 0A 0A 0A 49 6E 63 6C 75 64 65 20 65 72 72 6F ....Include erro 1E60 72 20 6D 65 73 73 61 67 65 73 00 CD 1F 29 32 6D r messages...)2m -a1e4d [ enter patch in assembler ] 1E4D sub a 1E4E inr a [ type NOP if you DON'T want the error file loaded ] 1E4F jmp 1e6e 1E52 . [ exit from assembler input mode ] -d1e40,1e6f [ display patched code ] 1E40 6E 63 2E 0D 0A 0A 00 21 23 01 CD A5 01 97 3C C3 nc.....!#....... 1E50 6E E1 0A 0A 49 6E 63 6C 75 64 65 20 65 72 72 6F n...Include erro 1E60 72 20 6D 65 73 73 61 67 65 73 00 CD 1F 29 32 6D r messages...)2m -g0 [ exit from DDT ] A> save 110 turbo.com [ save patched version ] A> ------------------------------------------------------------ Patch for Z-80 version 2.0 A> ddt turbo.com DDT VERS 2.2 NEXT PC 7800 0100 -d2100,212f [ display original code ] 2100 6C 3A 20 00 21 53 01 CD D0 01 CD 25 02 0D 0D 0A l: .!S.....!.... 2110 0A 0A 49 6E 63 6C 75 64 65 20 65 72 72 6F 72 20 ..Include error 2120 6D 65 73 73 61 67 65 73 00 CD 42 2c 32 24 44 C4 messages..B,2$D. -a210a [ enter patch in assembler ] 210A sub a 210B inr a [ type NOP if you DON'T want the error file loaded ] 210C jmp 212c 210F . [ exit from assembler input mode ] -d2100,212f [ display patched code ] 2100 6C 3A 20 00 21 53 01 CD D0 01 97 3C C3 2C 21 0A l: .!S.....<.,!. 2110 0A 0A 49 6E 63 6C 75 64 65 20 65 72 72 6F 72 20 ..Include error 2120 6D 65 73 73 61 67 65 73 00 CD 42 2c 32 24 44 C4 messages..B,2$D. -g0 [ exit from DDT ] A> save 119 turbo.com [ save patched version ] A> ------------------------------------------------------------ dsw, fferd Fred S. Brundick aka Pascal Postman USABRL, APG, MD. 4-Sep-84 11:12:35-MDT,11738;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 11:11:56-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 4 Sep 84 12:03 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a014624; 4 Sep 84 9:48 EDT Date: 4 September 1984 09:48-EDT From: "Allan D. Plehn" Subject: Changes/additions to SIMTEL20's micro: directory since 25 Aug. To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA Changes/additions to SIMTEL20's micro: directory, 25 August to date, are listed below: **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-86 (3770) XLATE2-11.DOC.1 ASCII 1060 9 = 9H FEF5H XLATE2-11.MAC.2 ASCII 36820 288 = 120H 3F0BH XLATETST.ASM.1 ASCII 2925 23 = 17H 9505H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-86 (3770) XLATE2-11.COM.1 COM 5120 40 = 28H 59ABH XLATE2-11.DOC.1 ASCII 1060 9 = 9H FEF5H XLATE2-11.HEX.1 ASCII 12476 98 = 62H EBEFH XLATE2-11.MAC.2 ASCII 36820 288 = 120H 3F0BH XLATETST.ASM.2 ASCII 2922 23 = 17H 4628H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-264 (11587) XCAT40.AQM.1 COM 20480 160 = A0H 036DH XCAT40.ASM.2 ASCII 30584 239 = EFH 504BH XCAT40.COM.2 COM 2816 22 = 16H 4DA8H XCAT40.DOC.2 ASCII 3581 28 = 1CH F53BH XCAT40.HEX.2 ASCII 6870 54 = 36H 27ADH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-266 (11687) XCAT42.AQM.1 COM 21120 165 = A5H E387H XCAT42.ASM.1 ASCII 30582 239 = EFH AA26H XCAT42.COM.1 COM 2816 22 = 16H 1512H XCAT42.DOC.1 ASCII 4526 36 = 24H 0896H XCAT42.HEX.1 ASCII 6867 54 = 36H 7073H XCAT42U.COM.1 COM 2816 22 = 16H BC5BH XCAT42U.HEX.1 ASCII 6867 54 = 36H AECFH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-285 (12428) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-288 (12622) XMODEM64.BAS.1 ASCII 5234 41 = 29H 50D0H XMODEM64.BUG.1 ASCII 794 7 = 7H A9F0H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-338 (14792) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-344 (15088) LUDEF5.DOC.1 ASCII 16599 130 = 82H 8DC0H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-341 (14932) TYPEL34A.COM.1 COM 3456 27 = 1BH EF7EH TYPEL34A.DOC.1 ASCII 3359 27 = 1BH BE11H TYPEL34A.HEX.1 ASCII 8433 66 = 42H A3A0H TYPEL34A.MAC.1 ASCII 14569 114 = 72H 3F06H USQB.REL.1 COM 1152 9 = 9H AF6AH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-348 (15276) TYPEL35.COM.1 COM 3968 31 = 1FH F924H TYPEL35.DOC.1 ASCII 3721 30 = 1EH 8074H TYPEL35.MAC.1 ASCII 15138 119 = 77H B33AH USQB.REL.2 COM 1152 9 = 9H 0DE0H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-381 (16662) ERAQ15.ASM.1 ASCII 11372 89 = 59H 7910H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-387 (16953) ERAQ16.ASM.1 ASCII 12012 94 = 5EH DF52H ERAQ16.COM.1 COM 1024 8 = 8H ADF2H ERAQ16.HEX.1 ASCII 2516 20 = 14H 671BH ERAQ16.INF.1 ASCII 2440 20 = 14H 5228H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-409 (17975) SD-88.DOC.1 ASCII 13011 102 = 66H 8B9EH SD-88.DQC.1 COM 8448 66 = 42H C55FH SD-88.INF.1 ASCII 1548 13 = DH 76D4H SD-88-89.DQF.2 COM 4352 34 = 22H A3CAH SD-89.AQM.2 COM 57856 452 = 1C4H CA37H SD-89.ASM.1 ASCII 85846 671 = 29FH 41DCH SD-89.COM.2 COM 3584 28 = 1CH 5403H SD-89.HEX.1 ASCII 8741 69 = 45H 7E6DH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-418 (18408) SD-92.AQM.1 COM 66816 522 = 20AH E412H SD-92.ASM.1 ASCII 93017 727 = 2D7H E95CH SD-92.COM.1 COM 4096 32 = 20H 1D0CH SD-92.DOC.1 ASCII 16646 131 = 83H 6DACH SD-92.DQC.1 COM 10880 85 = 55H 8EE1H SD-92.HEX.1 ASCII 9986 79 = 4FH 53AFH SD-92.INF.1 ASCII 2484 20 = 14H 3530H SD-92.LBR.1 COM 83968 656 = 290H F84AH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-628 (27742) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-637 (28172) PASS30.COM.1 COM 512 4 = 4H 5A48H PASS30.DOC.1 ASCII 1334 11 = BH 9B93H PASS30.HEX.1 ASCII 1271 10 = AH 6139H PASSWD30.ASM.1 ASCII 9709 76 = 4CH 54A6H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-661 (29174) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-674 (29796) FORTH83.LBR.1 COM 175360 1370 = 55AH 489AH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-772 (34298) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-786 (34967) MINIMUF.FOR.1 ASCII 6308 50 = 32H 6A7DH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-831 (36893) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-845 (37609) SID.HLP.1 ASCII 6469 51 = 33H F670H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-875 (38791) DUMP1084.MAC.1 ASCII 7424 58 = 3AH F54EH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-891 (39554) DUMP1084.MAC.2 ASCII 7425 59 = 3BH D34DH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-884 (39230) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-900 (39993) KP10BIOS.DOC.1 ASCII 666 6 = 6H BA7AH KP10BIOS.MAC.1 ASCII 17600 138 = 8AH 842FH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-946 (41887) -READ.ME.1 ASCII 2635 21 = 15H 56F6H BUFFERS.DOC.1 ASCII 3728 30 = 1EH 70BEH HELP.MEX.1 COM 49920 390 = 186H 7932H HELP-MEX.FIX.1 ASCII 924 8 = 8H 3018H HELPMEX.HEX.1 ASCII 121485 950 = 3B6H F4B9H MEX-EASY.DOC.1 ASCII 6514 51 = 33H C061H MEX-RVW.TXT.1 ASCII 2641 21 = 15H CD68H MEX10.COM.1 COM 23168 181 = B5H FDB9H MEX10.DOC.1 ASCII 62457 488 = 1E8H 068CH MEX10.HEX.1 ASCII 56398 441 = 1B9H 41EFH MEX10DOC.HEX.1 ASCII 112462 879 = 36FH 7585H MEX10DOC.WQ.1 COM 46208 361 = 169H 52B4H MEXFILES.INF.1 ASCII 7802 61 = 3DH FE08H MEXHACK1.ASM.1 ASCII 2750 22 = 16H 7BFBH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-964 (42750) AUTOMEX.INF.1 ASCII 11380 89 = 59H EF77H MEX.HQP.1 COM 32640 255 = FFH 71EAH MEX-EASY.DOC.1 ASCII 6514 51 = 33H C061H MEX-RVW.TXT.1 ASCII 2641 21 = 15H CD68H MEX111.COM.1 COM 24064 188 = BCH 1DF3H MEX111.HEX.1 ASCII 58580 458 = 1CAH 4810H MEX111.LBR.1 COM 127488 996 = 3E4H 628FH MEX11DOC.TOC.1 ASCII 3030 24 = 18H D59AH MEX11DOC.TQC.1 COM 1664 13 = DH 2922H MEX11DOC.WQ.1 COM 55040 430 = 1AEH D7A2H MEX11DOC.WS.1 ASCII 80416 629 = 275H D84FH MEX11UPD.DOC.1 ASCII 9705 76 = 4CH FB97H MEX11UPD.DQC.1 COM 6400 50 = 32H CC33H MEXFILES.INF.1 ASCII 7802 61 = 3DH FE08H MEXHQP.HEX.1 ASCII 79437 621 = 26DH 9713H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-964 (42756) MEXPAT10.ASM.1 ASCII 4397 35 = 23H 2CEAH MEXSANYO.FIX.1 ASCII 767 6 = 6H 5D00H MLOAD21.COM.1 COM 2816 22 = 16H E51EH MLOAD21.HEX.1 ASCII 6867 54 = 36H 2E67H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-983 (43667) MEXPAT11.AQM.1 COM 3712 29 = 1DH 10E4H MEXPAT11.ASM.1 ASCII 4885 39 = 27H FA14H MEXSUM.DOC.1 ASCII 10719 84 = 54H B5C5H MLOAD21.COM.1 COM 2816 22 = 16H E51EH MLOAD21.HEX.1 ASCII 6867 54 = 36H 2E67H MX111UPD.DOC.1 ASCII 670 6 = 6H 3A03H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-990 (44052) MXO-PM11.DIF.1 ASCII 484 4 = 4H B98CH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1011 (45059) *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-998 (44452) MXO-SM12.ASM.1 ASCII 8275 65 = 41H A6C8H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1018 (45409) *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1006 (44852) PASSON.DOC.1 ASCII 1425 12 = CH B99EH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1026 (45761) *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1035 (46122) RCPM-052.LQT.2 COM 31488 246 = F6H A992H RCPM-052.LST.1 ASCII 51491 403 = 193H 07EAH **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1053 (46981) RCPM-053.LQT.1 COM 33408 261 = 105H C3DFH RCPM-053.LST.1 ASCII 54355 425 = 1A9H 87C9H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1147 (51346) M7OVL-19.LST.1 ASCII 5285 42 = 2AH 32B1H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1165 (52205) M7OVL-21.LST.1 ASCII 5602 44 = 2CH 4B7EH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1169 (52402) M7VT-2.ASM.1 ASCII 11715 92 = 5CH F188H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1187 (53261) M7VT-3.ASM.1 ASCII 12437 98 = 62H D52FH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1343 (60160) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1361 (61019) Directory MICRO: FILLS.BAS.1 ASCII 723 6 = 6H 8558H GRAF.F.1 ASCII 43047 337 = 151H 379EH GRAF.FQ.1 COM 23552 184 = B8H F997H GRAF1.PAS.1 ASCII 16863 132 = 84H 779BH GRAF2.PAS.1 ASCII 18855 148 = 94H B0FFH GRAPH.BAS.1 ASCII 9028 71 = 47H 9066H HANDPLOT.BAS.1 ASCII 22477 176 = B0H 93B2H PLOT33.AQM.1 COM 44416 347 = 15BH FC55H PLOT33.ASM.1 ASCII 74560 583 = 247H F92DH PLOT33.DOC.1 ASCII 74617 583 = 247H 9E0FH PLOT33.DQC.1 COM 38400 300 = 12CH 3C2DH TEST.BAS.1 ASCII 1451 12 = CH 9AA4H TEST.PAS.1 ASCII 2338 19 = 13H 41CDH UPLOAD.BAS.1 ASCII 10135 80 = 50H 811DH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1400 (62734) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1434 (64278) MESSAGE.ASM.1 ASCII 2700 22 = 16H B283H MESSAGE.COM.1 COM 256 2 = 2H 9358H MESSAGE.DOC.1 ASCII 1228 10 = AH 5EA9H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1802 (81009) MAKLBR.EXE.1 ASCII 4820 38 = 26H 7D4BH MAKLBR.MID.1 ASCII 13338 105 = 69H 41B3H **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1839 (82698) MAKLBR.EXE.2 ASCII 4850 38 = 26H E3A8H MAKLBR.MID.2 ASCII 13473 106 = 6AH B9E5H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1827 (82086) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1864 (83775) CCT2.ASM.1 ASCII 26571 208 = D0H 7F0FH CCT2.COM.1 COM 1792 14 = EH 0DDCH CCT2.DOC.1 ASCII 565 5 = 5H 0A7FH CCT2.HEX.1 ASCII 4377 35 = 23H 32E6H CCT2.INF.1 ASCII 10142 80 = 50H 8617H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1859 (83585) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-1901 (85502) PHONE.C.1 ASCII 11252 88 = 58H 0340H PHONE.COM.1 COM 15872 124 = 7CH 38ADH PHONE.DOC.1 ASCII 2890 23 = 17H D1F3H PHONE.HEX.1 ASCII 38647 302 = 12EH 3AF9H PHONE.LBR.1 COM 22272 174 = AEH 7D05H *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-1955 (87832) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-2002 (89978) Directory MICRO: ERA.COM.1 COM 128 1 = 1H C393H ERA.HEX.1 ASCII 334 3 = 3H 583FH REN.COM.1 COM 256 2 = 2H 5851H REN.HEX.1 ASCII 642 6 = 6H 93E5H XCCP.COM.1 COM 3584 28 = 1CH 0D78H XCCP.DOC.1 ASCII 12313 97 = 61H C1F2H XCCP.HEX.1 ASCII 8741 69 = 45H 7E44H XCCP.HLP.1 ASCII 504 4 = 4H 7D2EH XCCP.MSG.1 ASCII 106 1 = 1H 8F7DH *************** **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 25 AUGUST, 1-2337 (105111) **** CPM CRCLST AS OF 09 SEPTEMBER, 1-2395 (107691) Z3LDRBUG.LBR.1 COM 5632 44 = 2CH 55F2H *************** Note that the above "difference" listing does not show the directory name (except where the directory is a new one). If you are not familiar with the directory naming scheme I'd suggest that you FTP micro:cpm.crclst to your host and scan it with an editor to find the file(s) of interest. You will find the full file spec given therein. SIMTEL20 supports the ANONYMOUS login under FTP. Al Plehn 4-Sep-84 13:10:56-MDT,618;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 13:10:48-MDT Received: From brl-tgr.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 4 Sep 84 14:44 EDT Received: from xerox.arpa by BRL-TGR.ARPA id a025992; 4 Sep 84 14:45 EDT Received: from Concord.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 04 SEP 84 11:11:12 PDT Date: 4 Sep 84 11:03:49 PDT (Tuesday) From: Bicer.ES@XEROX.ARPA Subject: Re: I/O Calls in 2.2 In-reply-to: abc's message of Fri, 31 Aug 84 9:27:09 EDT To: Brint cc: info-cpm@BRL-TGR.ARPA Use BDOS when you can. If it is too slow, use BIOS. Jack Bicer 4-Sep-84 22:25:53-MDT,2895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 22:25:44-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 4 Sep 84 23:43 EDT Received: from simtel20.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a000269; 4 Sep 84 23:38 EDT Date: 4 Sep 1984 19:43 MDT (Tue) Message-ID: From: Richard Conn To: lyman@jpl-vlsi.ARPA Cc: info-cpm@brl.ARPA, rconn@simtel20.ARPA Subject: [LYMAN: zcpr3 comments/questions] My replies to the following questions may be of general interest to the community. -- Rick Date: Saturday, 1 September 1984 23:45-MDT From: Peter Lyman To: rconn cc: lyman at jpl-vlsi Re: zcpr3 comments/questions Rick... Just got zcpr3 up and running on a Discovery Multi Processor... Great system... having lots of fun with it... 1. HELP.MAC uses COUT from syslib... COUT goes direct to bios thus bypassing BDOS and in particular TAB expansion.... A regression from prior versions of HELP... (I just used an internal COUT to solve the problem) Reply: The routine BOUT (BDOS Output) in SYSLIB3 can also be used. BOUT and COUT both output the char in A with no side effects, but BOUT uses the BDOS while COUT uses the BIOS. 2. Prior versions of HELP (at least the ones I have) display available HLP files on the disk when HELP is typed... Why is is this gone? Reply: I was not happy with that feature of HELP. I removed it for the following reasons: (1) I didn't feel it was used very frequently and it cost in terms of space (2) I didn't like its operation; if the SYSLIB series of HLP files was in the path, for example, then all 20 of them would appear as options, but it only makes sense to see SYSLIB.HLP and not the rest unless you have memorized what SYSLIBA.HLP, etc, contains (3) Aliases are fundamental under ZCPR3, and, with them, a feature like this can be replaced via the FINDF (Find File) command: IF NUL $1 FINDF *.HLP ELSE HELP $1 FI (4) the above alias simply "simulates" the older HELP in this sense; a solution that I prefer is: IF NUL $1 MENU HELPMENU ELSE HELP $1 FI so that a (probably multiple) menu of valid HLP files with their names as the user would prefer to see them would come up instead 3. In your sample bios you have an equate symbol CPMDRV which is undefined.. I ignored it... What was it? Reply: CPMDRV is an internal buffer to my BIOS. It should not have been in the example. 4. Is there a ZEX.HLP file available... Reply: Yes. The file CMDFILES.HLP contains data on both SUB and ZEX. Peter Lyman LYMAN@JPL-VLSI WB6WXK ps I got my system via SIMTEL20 4-Sep-84 22:54:46-MDT,832;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 22:54:42-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 0:24 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a000326; 5 Sep 84 0:20 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 4 Sep 84 21:16-PDT Date: 31 Aug 84 5:47:48-PDT (Fri) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ihnp4!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!hoxna!kfl@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Re: Christensen MODEM program for Commodore-64 Article-I.D.: hoxna.301 In-Reply-To: Article <12953@sri-arpa.UUCP> xxx Does anyone know of a similar modem program exists for the Apple II under the P-system? I am looking for such a beast, either public domain or for purchase. Thanks in advance. -- Kenton Lee, Bell Labs - WB wb3g!kfl or hoxna!kfl 4-Sep-84 23:54:22-MDT,814;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 4 Sep 84 23:54:18-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 1:31 EDT Date: 4 Sep 1984 23:34 MDT (Tue) Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: FTP Feature added For those of you who have FTP access to SIMTEL20: We are now experimentally running a different FTP Server that happens to have the feature most requested: to be able to use your CWD command or equivalent (one of the new TOPS-20 FTP programs also allows a SET DIRECTORY command) to set the default pathname. (Do not bother giving a password when it asks for one, as the path is already defaulted at that point.) --Frank 5-Sep-84 06:07:01-MDT,945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 06:06:56-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 6:39 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a000893; 5 Sep 84 6:33 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 5 Sep 84 3:19-PDT Date: 9 Aug 84 13:17:02-PDT (Thu) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ucsfcgl!harrison@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Looking for modem7 for ibmpc Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.331 In-Reply-To: Article <19570@wivax.UUCP> There was an old version around that did not do any dialling or have terminal emulation. Is there any improved version? Also, does anyone know of a program implementing the XMODEM protocol on a PDP 11/70 running iAS operating system. Please reply by mail. harrison@ucsfcgl.UCSF ucbvax!ucsfmis!harrison ucsfmis!harrison@berkeley One of those ought to make it to me. Peter Harrison 5-Sep-84 06:16:15-MDT,836;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 06:16:11-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 6:39 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a000895; 5 Sep 84 6:33 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 5 Sep 84 3:18-PDT Date: 9 Aug 84 13:07:18-PDT (Thu) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ucsfcgl!harrison@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Re: looking for xmodem protocol software on PDP-11 iAS Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.330 In-Reply-To: Article <48@decvax.UUCP> Does anyone know of a program implementing the XMODEM protocol on a PDP 11/70 running iAS operating system. Please reply by mail. harrison@ucsfcgl.UCSF ucbvax!ucsfmis!harrison ucsfmis!harrison@berkeley One of those ought to make it to me. Peter Harrison 5-Sep-84 07:26:32-MDT,862;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 07:26:26-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 8:43 EDT Received: from apg-1.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a002104; 5 Sep 84 8:39 EDT Date: 5 Sep 1984 8:30:54 EDT (Wednesday) From: Robert Bloom DRSTE-TOI 3775 Subject: Re: Typing tutor ... In-Reply-to: Your message of 4 Sep 1984 09:52:51-PDT (Tuesday) To: Jim moore Cc: info-cpm@brl.ARPA I had just answered a message to someone asking about it, and am not necessarily a "repository of wisdom" ! Anywhat, the typing tutor files (in mbasic) are in simtel20 and available for ftp with user login anonymous, password in the directory micro: -bob bloom 5-Sep-84 08:09:35-MDT,1002;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 08:09:27-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 9:28 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a002757; 5 Sep 84 9:25 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 5 Sep 84 6:13-PDT Date: 4 Sep 84 4:40:12-PDT (Tue) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ihnp4!ihuxk!db21@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Screen Editor for CP/M Article-I.D.: ihuxk.732 After spending a good part of my day using a screen editor, I have difficulty adjusting to the simple text editor (TED) available on my system. Granted, I can use Wordstar, but it leaves some strange footprints. I am looking for a good utility editor with which I can enter text or programs and have screen editing capability. Can anyone recommend such a beast that is available on CP/M and for which the source is available? Thanks in advance for your help. Dave Beyerl ihuxk!db21 5-Sep-84 08:30:31-MDT,1562;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 08:30:22-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 9:52 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a003140; 5 Sep 84 9:50 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 5 Sep 84 6:34-PDT Date: 4 Sep 84 6:42:14-PDT (Tue) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-dosadi!binder@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Query re: TURBO Pascal character input Article-I.D.: decwrl.3513 I have TURBO Pascal V1 (soon to be V2) on my Apple ][+, and I've been playing with direct character input from the keyboard so that I can handle such things as the right and left arrows to do funny things. The following code segment is what I've come up with - am I missing something or is there really no orthodox way to do it...? Program Test; Type Str80: string[80]; Var InputString: Str80; Function CharGet: char; Var KeyBuffer: char absolute $E000; CharGet: char; Begin; While not (KeyPressed) do begin; End; CharGet := KeyBuffer; End; { The main body begins here } Begin; InputString := ''; While (CharGet <> #128) do begin; { Mumblefratz, as required } End; End. Cheers, Dick Binder (The Stainless Steel Rat) UUCP: { decvax, allegra, ucbvax... }!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-dosadi!binder ARPA: binder%dosadi.DEC@decwrl.ARPA Posted Tuesday 4th eptemberO 1984, 09:46 EDT by DOSADI::BINDER 5-Sep-84 10:11:52-MDT,1038;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 10:11:47-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 11:30 EDT Received: from lll-mfe.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a005278; 5 Sep 84 11:27 EDT Date: Wed, 5 Sep 84 08:23 PDT From: Maron@LLL-MFE.ARPA Subject: reply to Screen Editor for CP/M To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA I have used MINCE for many years on my CP/M system. It is also available for the IBM PC which I use at work. It is a (large) subset of the EMACs editor which is on TOPS-20 which I use at work and FINE which is on the PDP-10 (at work). Obviously I don't have to keep changing gears too much to do editing on various systems. Anyways, MINCE used to be available from Mark of the Unicorn. I think I heard that they weren't selling it anymore but someone else might have a better pointer. If it is still available I would recommend it. The other religious camp will no doubt offer wordstart (W*) as a good choice for screen editors too. --Neil 5-Sep-84 19:10:11-MDT,873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 5 Sep 84 19:10:06-MDT Received: From mit-mc.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 5 Sep 84 20:37 EDT Date: 5 September 1984 20:41-EDT From: Eric Stork Subject: PLOT33 To: PLEHN@Mit-Mc.ARPA cc: STORK@Mit-Mc.ARPA, info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Re PLOT33. It would not run on my S-100 system -- instead of spaces, it printed underlines across the display. But ion a KAYPRO it worked fine. Traced problem to fact that on my S-100 (and on friend's TELETEK board, too) the paralell port sends pout only 7 bits, and uses eight bit to strobe printer. Have not yet figured out how to fix. Maybe others are frustrated and do not know why, hence I'm passing the infor on to you. You seem to be distributing it, so you may be a good focal point for such info. 6-Sep-84 07:06:21-MDT,1391;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 6 Sep 84 07:06:15-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 6 Sep 84 8:29 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a012514; 6 Sep 84 8:26 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 6 Sep 84 5:16-PDT Date: 5 Sep 84 7:34:39-PDT (Wed) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!zehntel!dual!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-mrvax!ddb@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Macro assemblers for cpm/80 systems Article-I.D.: decwrl.3520 I'm looking to buy (or simply acquire, if legally possible) a macro assembler to use on a z80 system running cp/m 2.2 . One concern is compatibility with existing public-domain software whose source is available. I know of the existence of MAC and M80, but I don't know how compatible they are or which is more widely used for producing public domain software. I'm also interested in a linker compatible with the assembler, and a symbolic debugger (ZSID? what other choices are there?). I'm willing to pay as much as some prices I've seen advertised for the DR or Microsoft products; but of course I'm willing to pay less, if there's something good enough available for less. Please respond direct to me, and I'll summarize if there's enough interest. -- David Dyer-Bennet -- {decvax|purdue|ihnp4}!decwrl!rhea!mrvax!ddb 6-Sep-84 11:47:52-MDT,834;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 6 Sep 84 11:47:43-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 6 Sep 84 10:02 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a013923; 6 Sep 84 9:57 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 6 Sep 84 6:49-PDT Date: 14 Aug 84 11:37:47-PDT (Tue) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ihnp4!houxm!hounx!gtp@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: CPM EDUC. SOFTWARE for YOUNG CHILDREN Article-I.D.: hounx.289 I am looking for educational software for young children (ages 4 - 10 ). I am interested in any feedback about what packages are good or bad. Also information on games that are easy and fun for beginning computer users would be appreciated. Please mail to houxn!gtp in Holmdel (BTL) Thanks in advance G. Peckham 6-Sep-84 11:48:35-MDT,650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 6 Sep 84 11:48:31-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 6 Sep 84 10:12 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a014176; 6 Sep 84 10:09 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 6 Sep 84 6:52-PDT Date: 14 Aug 84 12:33:32-PDT (Tue) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ihnp4!houxm!hounx!gtp@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: CPM EDUC. SOFTWARE for YOUNG CHILDREN ( CORRECTION ) Article-I.D.: hounx.290 Sorry I incorrectly posted the mailing address for mailing. The correct address is hounx!gtp in Holmdel. G. Peckham 7-Sep-84 07:08:10-MDT,1000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Sep 84 07:08:02-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 7 Sep 84 8:15 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a023586; 7 Sep 84 8:16 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 7 Sep 84 4:59-PDT Date: 4 Sep 84 20:45:38-PDT (Tue) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!akgua!sol1!sue@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: FOR SALE: Accounting Plus CP/M software Article-I.D.: sol1.191 FOR SALE: 'Accounting Plus' accounting package General Ledger Accounts Receivable Accounts Payable Payroll Sales Order Entry Purchase Order Entry Inventory On SSSD 8" CP/M diskettes $1,450.00 Contact: Susan Wulf Korsmeyer Electronic Design, Inc. 402/483-2238 akgua!sol1!sue 7-Sep-84 11:47:57-MDT,1686;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Sep 84 11:47:50-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 7 Sep 84 13:19 EDT Date: 7 Sep 1984 11:22 MDT (Fri) Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Problems with MICRO: The RP06 disk pack which you know as our MICRO: structure apparently had developed one or more bad spots over the year it has been in service, and was finally detected sometime last week. Such latent errors are not handled well by the system, with one error generating others and eventually giving the appearance of a degenerating system, masking the original error, and eventually crashing the system. The problem was correctly diagnosed yesterday afternoon, and a fresh disk pack was brought online, initialized, and the MICRO: filesystem was restored from Friday's full backup and Wednesday night's incremental backup tapes. The integrity of the structure was thoroughly checked and a new backup run was then made and ran to completion without errors. In the process, I created the structure with no swapping pages reserved for system use. Thus, we have recovered about 7,000 additional disk pages available for still more files to be stored. We now have plenty of room for the 16 new SIG/M disks arrived in the interim. They will be uploaded next week. Watch for an announcement. Those of you who may have experienced difficulty with FTPing files from MICRO: between last Thursday and yesterday, please try again. If you have any problems, let me know. --Frank 7-Sep-84 14:10:20-MDT,627;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Sep 84 14:10:15-MDT Received: From cmu-cs-cad.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 7 Sep 84 15:36 EDT Date: 5 Sep 1984 13:37-EST From: Conal.Elliott@CMU-CS-CAD.ARPA Subject: FORTH distribution list ?? To: info-atari@Su-Score.ARPA, info-micro@Brl-Vgr.ARPA, info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Message-Id: <463253857/conal@CMU-CS-CAD> Does anybody know if there is there a FORTH interest group/distribution list on the net anymore? If not, where do FORTHers congregate these days? Thanks in advance for any pointers. - Conal Elliott 7-Sep-84 16:52:36-MDT,963;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Sep 84 16:52:29-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 7 Sep 84 18:17 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a001587; 7 Sep 84 18:20 EDT Received: from DEC-RHEA.ARPA by decwrl.ARPA (4.22.01/4.7.34) id AA15144; Fri, 7 Sep 84 15:07:46 pdt Message-Id: <8409072207.AA15144@decwrl.ARPA> Date: Friday, 7 Sep 1984 15:13:49-PDT From: Dave Maddox To: info-cpm@MIT-MC.ARPA, info-micro@MIT-MC.ARPA Cc: maddox%arson.DEC@DECWRL.ARPA Subject: zcpr3 on kaypro-10? Hello, Can anyone provide a pointer to an installed ZCPR3.ASM for the Kaypro 10? Bill and I are about to dig in, but we would welcome any advice/shortcuts, and will gladly share our own insights... Thanks in advance, Dave Maddox MADDOX@MIT-MC.ARPA MADDOX%ARSON.DEC@DECWRL.ARPA ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-topcat!dec-arson!maddox 7-Sep-84 18:35:50-MDT,811;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Sep 84 18:35:45-MDT Received: From mit-mc.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 7 Sep 84 20:01 EDT Date: 7 September 1984 20:04-EDT From: Herb Lin Subject: disk formats and translations... To: INFO-ATARI@Mit-Mc.ARPA, info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA I have about 300 double-spaced pages of text stored on Atari diskettes (1050 disk drive). Anyone have any idea how best to get these files translated into CP/M formatted disks (in particular, Kaypro II or Kaypro 4 diskettes). This is a one time only job, so investing lots in special software and hardware is a route of last resort. More desirable would be some disk conversion house that would do this for a fee. Any ideas? tnx in advance. 7-Sep-84 19:09:30-MDT,1776;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 7 Sep 84 19:09:17-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 7 Sep 84 20:43 EDT Date: 7 Sep 1984 18:46 MDT (Fri) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Quick reference list to SIMTEL20 CP/M directories Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's MICRO: directories as of 9/7/84 (where "x" is one of the names below): 6502 AMETHYST APPLE ASMUTL ATARI BASIC BDSC-1 BDSC-2 BDSC-3 BDSC-4 BYE3 CATLOG CCP COMMODORE CPM3 CPM86 CPMLIB CPR86 CUG DIRUTL DISASM DISKPLOT DSKBUF DSKUTL EDITC80 EDITOR EPSON FAST2 FILCPY FILUTL FORTH FORTH-83 GENASM GENCOM GENDOC HAMRADIO HDUTL HEATH HELP HEX IBM-PC INSIDCPM KAYPRO LIST MACLIB MATH MEMTEST MEX MICNET MISC MODEM MODEM2 MODEM7 MODEM903 MSOFT NEW NEWS NSTAR OLD OSBORN PACKET PASCAL PLOT33 PPSPEL RBBS RBBS4 RCPM SORT SPELL SQUSQ STARTER-KIT SUBMIT SYSLIB SYSLIB3 TERM TOPS-20 TRS-80 TXTUTL V2CMAC VAXVMS VOICE WSTAR XCCP YAM ZCPR ZCPR2 ZCPR3 --Keith 8-Sep-84 08:02:42-MDT,565;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 08:02:38-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 9:41 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a001234; 8 Sep 84 9:37 EDT Date: Sat 8 Sep 84 09:36:21-EDT From: "Andrew M. Moore" Subject: CP/M-86 Assembler To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA Is there a Public Domain assembler and loader for the CP/M-86 operating system (.CMD) that I can use on the Xerox 820-II 16/8? Andrew ------- 8-Sep-84 11:59:12-MDT,1655;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 11:59:05-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 13:29 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 11:33 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Revised quick reference list of SIMTEL20 directories Quick reference list to SIMTEL20's MICRO: directories as of Sept. 8, 1984 (where 'x' is one of the names below): 6502 CPR86 GENDOC MODEM2 STARTER-KIT AMETHYST CUG HAMRADIO MODEM7 SUBMIT APPLE DIRUTL HDUTL MODEM903 SYSLIB ASMUTL DISASM HEATH MSOFT SYSLIB3 ATARI DISKPLOT HELP NEWS TERM BASIC DSKBUF HEX NSTAR TOPS-20 BDSC-1 DSKUTL IBM-PC OSBORN TRS-80 BDSC-2 EDITC80 INSIDCPM PACKET TXTUTL BDSC-3 EDITOR KAYPRO PASCAL V2CMAC BDSC-4 EPSON LIST PLOT33 VAXVMS BYE3 FAST2 MACLIB PPSPEL VOICE CATLOG FILCPY MATH RBBS WSTAR CCP FILUTL MEMTEST RBBS4 XCCP COMMODORE FORTH MEX RCPM YAM CPM3 FORTH-83 MICNET SORT ZCPR CPM86 GENASM MISC SPELL ZCPR2 CPMLIB GENCOM MODEM SQUSQ ZCPR3 8-Sep-84 12:10:29-MDT,929;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 12:10:24-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 13:35 EDT Date: Tuesday, 4 September 1984 14:23-MDT Message-ID: Sender: pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!pollack@Ucb-Vax.ARPA From: pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!pollack@Ucb-Vax.ARPA To: info-micro@Brl.ARPA Subject: info needed on VIO board - (nf) ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA ReSent-To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA ReSent-Date: Sat 8 Sep 1984 11:39-MDT #N:uicsl:28000001:000:279 uicsl!pollack Sep 4 15:23:00 1984 Could someone mail me a brief operational description of an IMSAI VIO board. I have got one without any documentation and need to know where it sits in memory or IO space, and what kind of stuff is in the ROM, etc. Thanks in advance, Jordan ...pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!pollack 8-Sep-84 13:24:02-MDT,2355;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 13:23:52-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 14:50 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 12:53 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Kaypro 4-84 time display program now available Kaypro 4-84 users will be interested in the KP4TIME2 package. These files are now available from SIMTEL20: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: KP4TIME2.ASM.1 ASCII 21849 9F1EH KP4TIME2.COM.1 COM 896 C8F0H KP4TIME2.HEX.1 ASCII 2195 87D9H KP4TIME2.INF.1 ASCII 1526 86F0H ...and for those who want the whole package and can FTP ITS-binary files: KP4TIME2.LBR.1 COM 13824 A3E7H Here's a short description of the program: CP/M program to display and set the real-time clock on Kaypro 4-84. Written 04/22/84 by Bob Snider, Columbus Ohio. Greatly expanded 6/30/84. Display is MM/DD HH:MM:SS and can be 24-hour format or 12-hour with AM/PM. Date is optional, and the ability to set the clock is optional for those who want a minimum length module. Customize this assembly by setting the options in the "Customization section". The clock is just displayed by the command "TIME". The clock is displayed and set by anything extra on the command line, ie. "TIME SET". The program will prompt for date and time value which must be entered as in the display format. Each of the following items can be set independently: Date (month/day) Day of the week Time of day (seconds may be omitted) If the 12-hour format is on, AM or PM must always follow the time. Any omitted items are not changed in the clock. The clock is set at the carriage return. The input line is parsed for proper format, but not checked for valid dates or times. If nothing is entered the time is unchanged. If an error is detected, the position of the error in the string is flagged with a '^' and nothing is set. The clock is checked to see if an update has occurred while being read, and it is re-read if so, ensuring valid time displays. Problems or enhancements should be directed to the Kaypro User's Group on CompuServe, page PCS-25. --Keith 8-Sep-84 13:43:29-MDT,970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 13:43:24-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 14:52 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 12:56 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: FTPing ASCII files to ITS This is probably of interest only to readers on the ITS machines: Some of the ASCII text files in MICRO: do not appear to have the EOF ^C padding such files are expected to have when read on an ITS machine. This is because such files are defaultly and more efficiently FTP'd in IMAGE mode. If this is a problem, re-FTP the file in TEXT mode and the correct padding will be applied in the process. (It is probably more technically correct to say that this problem is more noticable with files that are not close to exact multiples of 1024 PDP-10 words.) --Frank 8-Sep-84 13:50:39-MDT,746;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 13:50:35-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 15:00 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 13:03 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: New MDM7 overlay for HZ89 with Z-89-11 2661-3 card A new MDM7 overlay for the H/Z89 running CP/M 2.204 with the Z-89-11 card installed is now available from SIMTEL20. This is for the enhanced programmable communication interface chip 2661-3. Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: M7H82661.ASM.1 ASCII 10021 96AAH --Keith 8-Sep-84 14:10:47-MDT,2376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 14:10:37-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 15:15 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 13:19 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: MXO-KP28.ASM new Kaypro overlay for MEX MXO-KP28.ASM is a new MEX Overlay for Kaypro Computers with either internal or external modems. A full-featured SET command processor is implemented to select between modems as well as set specific characteristics of each one. The file is now available from SIMTEL20: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: MXO-KP28.ASM.1 ASCII 37584 D19EH The following table outlines the SET command options: Available for SET Command Internal External INTERNAL YES YES EXTERNAL YES YES DELAY (seconds) YES YES BAUD NO YES ORIG (originate mode) YES YES ANSWER (mode) YES YES TONE (dialing) YES YES PULSE (dialing) YES YES MONITOR (speaker on) NO YES QUIET (speaker off) NO YES PARITY (Odd, Even, None) NO YES STOPBITS (1, 1.5, 2) NO YES LENGTH (5, 6, 7, or 8) NO YES MANUAL (goes off-hook and YES NO activates modem) Recent revisions: 8/26/84 2.8 Added equate to support Anchor Signalman Mark XII modem. This overlay now supports DSC, dial abort (^C), and accurate SET DELAY processing for Anchor modems. Also incorporated the PARITY, STOPBITS and LENGTH commands from the Norm Saunders overlay (MXO-KP3X) in an attempt to unify the Kaypro MEX overlay identity crisis. The new SET commands are NOT implemented for the 4'84 internal modem. The SET ? command and the SET without arguments correctly distinguishes between the internal and external modem support. Terry Carroll 8/03/84 2.7 Added call to DISCON: (disconnect routine) in the Smartmodem dialing routine at SMDMOFF:. It appeared that when either the delay timer timed out or a CTRL -C abort coincided with a connect, the modem did connect, even though the overlay responded with NO ANSWER. Added these calls to make sure there is no unannounced connect. John C. Smith --Keith 8-Sep-84 14:36:03-MDT,792;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 14:35:59-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 15:26 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 13:30 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: MXM-US13.ASM a revised MEX overlay for U.S. Robotics S-100 modem MXM-US13.ASM is a new MEX overlay for the U.S. Robotics S-100. Revision history: 08/27/84 by Don Wilke 08/29/84 added fancy video conditionals 08/30/84 added parity routines The new file is available from SIMTEL20: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: MXM-US13.ASM.1 ASCII 26488 FC0DH --Keith 8-Sep-84 18:36:34-MDT,493;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 18:36:30-MDT Received: From mitre-bedford.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 20:14 EDT Date: Saturday, 8 Sep 1984 00:00-EDT From: P.E.Matthews%mbvm@Mitre-Bedford.ARPA To: Info-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA cc: pem%mbvm@Mitre-Bedford.ARPA Subject: Mailing List Update Please remove me from your Mailing List. My address is .Matthews%mbvm@mitre-bedford. Thank you. Paul Matthews. 8-Sep-84 20:16:32-MDT,659;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 20:16:27-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 21:47 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a002149; 8 Sep 84 21:47 EDT Date: 8 September 1984 21:35-EDT From: "Stephen C. Hill" Subject: Mark of the Unicorn To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA cc: STEVEH@mit-mc.ARPA I tried to call the above company (in Cambridge, MA), but an ephemeral voice said that their phone was disconnected. Does this mean that the company is defunct? If not, could someone give me the proper phone number? Thanks. 8-Sep-84 21:11:33-MDT,844;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 21:11:27-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 22:39 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a002304; 8 Sep 84 22:37 EDT Date: Sat 8 Sep 84 22:36:40-EDT From: "Andrew M. Moore" Subject: Mark Of The Unicorn To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA In reply to your message, Steve, I think Mark Of The Unicorn is in kahootz with a bulletin board system at 617/353-9312. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's the board that has some- thing to do with it. It's an IBM-PC system, running RBBS. There is a voice line for the system posted in the welcome message. Hope this help. (sorry if I'm wrong about it, but I'm pretty sure) Andrew ------- 8-Sep-84 21:52:48-MDT,848;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 21:52:43-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 23:04 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 21:08 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Public file attribute BDOS patch for CP/M 2.2 BDPATCH.ASM is a program which contains a patch for CP/M 2.2 that adds a new file attribute: the PUBlic attribute. When a file's public attribute is set, it is available to all users. The public attribute is f1' (the high bit of the first character of the filename). It's available from SIMTEL20 as: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: BDPATCH.ASM.1 ASCII 2682 78B7H --Keith 8-Sep-84 21:54:11-MDT,787;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 21:54:06-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 23:00 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 21:04 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Satellite headings MBASIC program for TVRO users SATELITE.BAS is a program to locate television satellites for a given latitude and longitude. This program is useful for TVRO owners. Additional satellites and cities can be placed in the data tables. It is now available from SIMTEL20: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: SATELITE.BAS.1 ASCII 4853 A9C6H --Keith 8-Sep-84 22:15:48-MDT,1442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 22:15:42-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 23:12 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 21:15 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: New MX-SM13A overlay for MEX/Anchor XXII modem MX-SM13A.ASM for MEX is now available from SIMTEL20: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: MX-SM13A.ASM.1 ASCII 9335 1E83H The author of this update explains his changes in a message to Ron Fowler: Msg 132 is 12 line(s) on 09/08/84 from BOB SANDEL to RON FOWLER about MODIFIED SM-13 TO STOP HANGUPS Ron, Although the SM-13 overlay worked quite well for me with MEX10, I started experiencing a lot of Anchor XII hangups when I implemented MEX111. Seems like MEX111 is too fast to allow a proper disconnect of the Anchor. I experimented and have U/L MX-SM13A (A for Anchor) which has added 3 CALLs to DISCON before turning control back to MEX111. Seems to works a lot better for me---let's see how others do with the alteration. I speeded up the DISCON times to 1.2 seconds from 2.0 seconds. Still having some difficulty recogninzing a Control C when in the auto-repeat dial mode. Currently only about 50% effective. Thx for a powerful modem executive. Bob 8-Sep-84 22:42:39-MDT,555;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 22:42:35-MDT Received: From utexas-20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 8 Sep 84 23:35 EDT Date: Sat 8 Sep 84 22:38:33-CDT From: Douglas Good Subject: MDM730 & MEX To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I've tried both of these programs on my Kaypro IV and came up with a problem with both. When the print toggle is activated it starts dropping a lot of characters. Has anyone been able to solve this problem? --Doug ------- 8-Sep-84 23:42:07-MDT,1382;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 8 Sep 84 23:42:00-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 1:00 EDT Date: 8 Sep 1984 23:03 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: MXO-SY20.ASM Sanyo MBC-1000 overlay for MEX MXO-SY20.ASM is a MEX overlay for the Sanyo MBC-1000 Computer. THIS OVERLAY MAKES USE OF TIMER 2 OF THE 8253 PROGRAMMABLE INTERVAL TIMER (IC4) ON THE SERIAL I/O BOARD OF THE SANYO MBC-1000 AND REQUIRES A HARDWARE MODIFICATION. The overlay allows use the "SET" command to change the baudrate when desired. It starts out at 1200 baud when the program is first called up. Only 300 & 1200 Baud are enabled; info for other baudrates is provided in table form in the overlay. The SET command allows the user to change the baud rates, and the parity. The parity options are: No parity (NONE); Even parity (EVEN); Even parity with 8 data bits (EVEN8); Odd parity (ODD); and Odd parity with 8 data bits (ODD8). EVEN8 and ODD8 are for special purposes and will most likely never be used. The file is available from SIMTEL20 as: Filename Type Bytes CRC MICRO: MXO-SY20.ASM.1 ASCII 20659 4989H --Keith 9-Sep-84 05:09:07-MDT,1833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 05:09:01-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 6:44 EDT Date: Sunday, 9 September 1984 00:59-MDT Message-ID: Sender: Bridger Mitchell From: Bridger Mitchell To: Keith Petersen cc: bridger@Rand-Unix.ARPA Subject: Public file attribute BDOS patch for CP/M 2.2 ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA ReSent-To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA ReSent-Date: Sun 9 Sep 1984 04:47-MDT This code looks quite similar to a test version of PUBPATCH I released late last spring. Who's the contributor, and what's the background? An article documenting the patch we developed at Plu*Perfect Systems is scheduled for a fall Dr. Dobbs issue. It includes code for a PUBLIC utility to set/reset the public bit & list public files. A disk is available with an augmented SD to list public files in a separate 'public' directory. Without some further bdos patches the patch you released will probably suffer from the weak points that we had to overcome in our initial version of the public-attribute-bit approach: era *.* will wipe out public files from any user number, and dir will show public files in every user number. The Dr. Dobbs version handles this well-- public files have a type of SYStem status and are accessible only by unambiguous filename or search-for-next function. Our approach is copyrighted, but we will be releasing it for non-commercial, single-user use to the CP/M community. SIMTEL20 availability would also be fine; the documentation is the article, and I would have to check with the editor about release before publication. --bridger mitchell 9-Sep-84 05:26:04-MDT,925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 05:25:59-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 6:49 EDT Date: 9 Sep 1984 04:52 MDT (Sun) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Bridger Mitchell Cc: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Public file attribute BDOS patch for CP/M 2.2 In-reply-to: Msg of 9 Sep 1984 00:59-MDT from Bridger Mitchell The file I announced, BDPATCH.ASM, appeared on RCPM (Royal Oak, MI). Since there is no record kept of who uploads and no .DOC file was included, I can't tell where it came from. If you don't mind, I'll forward your message to my RCPM as BDPATCH.BUG in order for people to be warned about the potential danger in using this patch. --Keith 9-Sep-84 05:49:29-MDT,1014;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 05:49:25-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 7:07 EDT Received: from simtel20.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a003410; 9 Sep 84 7:09 EDT Date: 9 Sep 1984 05:08 MDT (Sun) Message-ID: From: CSTROM@simtel20.ARPA To: Douglas Good Cc: Info-CPM@brl.ARPA, CSTROM@simtel20.ARPA Subject: MDM730 & MEX In-reply-to: Msg of 8 Sep 1984 21:38-MDT from Douglas Good Your problem stems from the BIOS in the Kaypro not implementing the List Status call properly. There has been considerable discussion on this in the past; few programs use the status call because more than a few BIOS authors have been remiss in not including same. There are probably several solutions depending on your expertise. You might patch it yourself, go to the Kaypro Sig on Compuserve and ask for a patch, etc. 9-Sep-84 11:54:52-MDT,1882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 11:54:46-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 13:19 EDT Date: 9 Sep 1984 11:23 MDT (Sun) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: New MX-SM13A overlay for MEX/Anchor XXII modem Reply-To: Alexander M. Fraser Thanks to Alex for this further fix for the Anchor modem. --Keith Date: Sunday, 9 September 1984 09:03-MDT From: Alexander M. Fraser To: W8SDZ at SIMTEL20.ARPA cc: RFowler at SIMTEL20.ARPA Re: New MX-SM13A overlay for MEX/Anchor XXII modem (Please forward this to Bob Sandel to please, since I don't know his net address if any) The problem is that there is no pause between the ''+''s. The Anchorman has either a bug, or a safeguard that if the +s pass through at full speed (as they would in an ESC+T type transfer), the modem ignores them. I put in a patch to call a delay of 6 in the timer sequence between the ''+''s and doubled all the other delays in the disconnect sequence and it works at least 95% of the time. The way to solve the ^C problem is that the Anchorman will not abort on (CR), it needs an A. I modified it to send (CR), pause, ''A'', pause, ''T'', pause and then (CR). Works all the time, except while the Anchorman is still sending back the numbers (ie still dialing) (the Anchorman echoes each character back as it is dialed). Another thing that should be down with the MEx overlay is to increase the timeout (which is default 60 seconds). Since the Anchorman waits 36 seconds before hanging up and some ALD pauses coul make up the rest to 60, sometimes it times-out too soon. 9-Sep-84 12:33:28-MDT,833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 12:33:23-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 14:05 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a004253; 9 Sep 84 14:06 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 9 Sep 84 10:55-PDT Date: 6 Sep 84 14:14:44-PDT (Thu) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!hao!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!ttidca!troeger@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Wanted: ISAM routines for the Rainbow 100 Article-I.D.: ttidca.131 I am looking for ISAM libraries that I can use with my C Compiler (Mark Williams Co.) for the Rainbow 100. If anyone knows of anything that I can use, I would appreciate it. (HASHED libraries would be nice also...) Thanks in advance, Jeff Troeger ..!ttidca!troeger 9-Sep-84 12:49:19-MDT,639;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 12:49:16-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 14:05 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a004257; 9 Sep 84 14:08 EDT Date: Sun 9 Sep 84 08:42:30-PDT From: Sam Hahn Subject: Re: Mark of the Unicorn To: STEVEH@MIT-MC.ARPA cc: INFO-CPM@MIT-MC.ARPA In-Reply-To: Message from ""Stephen C. Hill" " of Sat 8 Sep 84 18:35:00-PDT My docs show them in Arlington (vs Cambridge) at 617-489-1387. Haven't called them myself; hope this helps. ------- 9-Sep-84 20:28:10-MDT,959;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 20:28:05-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 21:50 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a004792; 9 Sep 84 21:49 EDT Date: Sun, 9 Sep 1984 17:49 EDT Message-ID: From: RG.JMTURN%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA To: "Stephen C. Hill" Cc: INFO-CPM%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA Subject: Mark of the Unicorn A quick call to directory resistance gave their number as: (617)576-2760. I called, and got infinite ringing (not strange, considering it was a sunday). And we still pay royalties to them everytime we send out a Unix system with Mince and/or Scribble on it, so I assume they're alive. They certainly were as of the last time I went out to the American Twine Building to fix their CADR. James Turner LISP Machine, Inc RG.JMTURN@MIT-OZ 9-Sep-84 20:52:02-MDT,970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 20:51:57-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 22:21 EDT Received: from simtel20.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a004825; 9 Sep 84 22:15 EDT Date: 9 Sep 1984 20:14 MDT (Sun) Message-ID: From: Richard Conn To: Dave Maddox Cc: info-CPM@brl.ARPA Subject: zcpr3 on kaypro-10? In-reply-to: Msg of 7 Sep 1984 16:13-MDT from Dave Maddox Hi, I understand that Echelon has fully installed ZCPR3 on the Kaypro-10 already. You might want to contact them for details. Frank Gaude and I were talking about it the other day, and he said it took a lot of internal knowledge that Joe Wright, the guy who worked with Frank to do the installation, had. Joe writes BIOSes as part of his work in Sunnyvale. Rick 9-Sep-84 22:00:29-MDT,870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 22:00:25-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 9 Sep 84 23:22 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a004957; 9 Sep 84 23:22 EDT Date: 9 September 1984 23:22-EDT From: "Stephen C. Hill" Subject: New MX-SM13A overlay for MEX/Anchor XXII modem To: W8SDZ@simtel20.ARPA cc: STEVEH@mit-mc.ARPA, INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA In-reply-to: Msg of 8 Sep 1984 21:15 MDT (Sat) from Keith Petersen I have been having the same problem with my Hayes modem. I thought that it may have been an inconsistancy because I am running a 5MHz Lobo Max-80 (even after changing the CLOCK variable. I have been able to get the modem to disconnect if I use the following command string: "DSC;SLEEP 1;DSC". 9-Sep-84 22:34:19-MDT,832;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sun 9 Sep 84 22:34:15-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 0:03 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a005031; 10 Sep 84 0:07 EDT Date: 10 September 1984 00:04-EDT From: "Stephen C. Hill" Subject: Info-World reference question To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA cc: STEVEH@mit-mc.ARPA Has anyone else tried to contact the Unicomp Corp. service called Computer Resource Center, as mentioned in a late Info-World four column inch article? They mention that the service is free for users, since it is paid for by "advertisers" and it can be reached at 800-552-6206 (rest of US) and 800-552-2602 (in WA). I can only get a ringing phone. Has any one else gotten any success? 10-Sep-84 02:32:53-MDT,1329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 02:32:46-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 3:57 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a005476; 10 Sep 84 3:56 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 10 Sep 84 0:43-PDT Date: 17 Aug 84 16:36:26-PDT (Fri) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: decvax!linus!philabs!cmcl2!lanl-a!jp@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Need help on file transfers with uc14.c and mdm730 Article-I.D.: lanl-a.12175 [] I have been trying to use uc14.c from micro: to exchange text files with a cp/m system using mdm730. I have successfully sent files to the unix system, but all attempts to receive files have failed. What I have done is to send the unix machine the command to send a file. Then I escape to the mdm730 command mode and ask to recieve the file. What I get is an attempt to transfer, but with a message " Illegal character in header". If I don't try to receive the file to a cpm disk file, but supply a NAK from the keyboard, a block is sent to the screen. Sending non-NAK's causes the block to repeat and sending ACK causes the next block to be sent, as expected. Anyone have an idea about what I might be doing wrong???? Thanks, Jim Potter jp@LANL 10-Sep-84 09:19:16-MDT,539;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 09:19:12-MDT Received: From bbnccf.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 10:35 EDT Date: 10 Sep 1984 10:36:45 EDT (Monday) From: Mike Simpson Subject: Re: Mark of the Unicorn (address/phone no) To: "Stephen C. Hill" Cc: hplabs!hp-pcd!peter@ucb-vax.arpa, msimpson@BBNCCF.ARPA, info-cpm@amsaa.arpa Mark of the Unicorn 222 Third Street Cambridge, MA 02142 617-576-2760 10-Sep-84 11:02:01-MDT,1037;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 11:01:56-MDT Received: From usc-ecl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 12:26 EDT Received: from ECLD by ECLA with ECLnet; Mon 10 Sep 84 09:29:09-PDT Date: Mon 10 Sep 84 09:24:37-PDT From: L. Y. Weissler Subject: dBASE II on a VAX To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I've been attempting to use dBASE II on a VAX (MOUSE@USC-ECL). In setting up a database, I discovered an upper limit of 431 records; I can enter more than 431, but any attempt to sort or index the database, or to edit any additional records, results in the program screaming RECORD OUT OF RANGE. Considering that dBASE II itself states that it has an upper limit of some 65,000 records with 32 fields, and I'm only using 6 fields, 431 records is quite a reduction and renders the program pretty useless as far as I'm concerned. Has anybody else had this problem, or can suggest ways of fixing it or getting around it? ------- 10-Sep-84 12:20:10-MDT,897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 12:20:04-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 13:42 EDT Received: from ucb-vax.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a011962; 10 Sep 84 13:40 EDT Received: from ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (ucbjade.ARPA) by UCB-VAX.ARPA (4.24/4.33) id AA23972; Mon, 10 Sep 84 10:39:15 pdt Received: from KJBSF@SLACVM.BITNET by ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (4.14/4.25) id AA12304; Mon, 10 Sep 84 10:39:54 pdt Message-Id: <8409101739.AA12304@ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: 10 September 84 10:35-PST From: KJBSF%SLACVM.BITNET@ucb-vax.ARPA To: INFO-CPM@brl.ARPA Subject: BITNET mail follows Date: 10 September 1984, 10:34:25 PST From: KJBSF at SLACVM To: INFO-CPM at BRL.ARPA Subject: Date & Time How can I get the system date and time into a CBASIC program under CP/M-Plus? 10-Sep-84 14:20:45-MDT,1244;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 14:20:37-MDT Date: Mon, 10 Sep 84 15:47:00 EDT From: Dave Towson (info-cpm-request) To: info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: [KJBSF%SLACVM.BI: BITNET mail follows] ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: From ucb-vax.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 13:30 EDT Received: from ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (ucbjade.ARPA) by UCB-VAX.ARPA (4.24/4.33) id AA23307; Mon, 10 Sep 84 10:08:49 pdt Received: from KJBSF@SLACVM.BITNET by ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (4.14/4.25) id AA11767; Mon, 10 Sep 84 10:09:25 pdt Message-Id: <8409101709.AA11767@ucbjade.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: 10 September 84 10:08-PST From: KJBSF%SLACVM.BITNET@Berkeley To: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@AMSAA Subject: BITNET mail follows Date: 10 September 1984, 10:07:18 PST From: KJBSF at SLACVM To: INFO-CPM-REQUEST at AMSAA.ARPA Subject: Info-World reference question In-Reply-To: info-cpm AT AMSAA.ARPA -- 09/10/84, 10:06:45 When I tried to call either of those numbers, I got a message similar to this: "That number is not available in your calling area." How irritating. ----- End of forwarded messages 10-Sep-84 14:41:56-MDT,1055;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 14:41:50-MDT Date: Mon, 10 Sep 84 16:03:28 EDT From: Dave Towson (info-cpm-request) To: info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Rejected mail addressed to gren.maze%mit-oz@mit-mc List members - Please accept my apology for the flood of rejects you have been receiving while I was on vacation. A friend was watching the list for me, but then he went on vacation too! I must do some business travel for the next two weeks, but will make every effort to get in via the net and maintain this list. However, if I am unable to do this, things may be a bit shabby for a little longer. Sorry. I have sent a message to the postmaster at mit-mc regarding the bad gren.maze address. That address IS NOT in my list, so it must be local at MIT. Nothing I can do except pass along the beefs, which I have done. I am confident the folks at MIT will get it fixed. Dave Towson info-cpm-request@amsaa.arpa 10-Sep-84 20:33:40-MDT,1218;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 20:33:30-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 22:09 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id aa16344; 10 Sep 84 22:07 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 10 Sep 84 18:41-PDT Date: 9 Sep 84 19:46:58-PDT (Sun) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!hao!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mclay@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Tektronics Emulation for Z29 Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.913 [] I am interested in an emulation of a Tektronic 4010 for a Zenith Z29. I have seen two ads for these: 1) Graphics-Plus GP-29 ( I think its in the "Real Soon" stage) 2) Cleveland Codonics Cdn-1220. The Codonics board sounds good. A while back Jerry Pournelle mentioned it in BYTE. All He said was that it looked good in a show. If anybody out there is has used one, what I want to know is: Is it easy to use? Can you clear the screen easily? How well does the interface to an Epson (or look-a-like) Dot-matrix printer work? Does it ever lock the keyboard up? Thanks Robert McLay (Univ. of Texas at Austin) 10-Sep-84 20:52:15-MDT,808;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Mon 10 Sep 84 20:52:07-MDT Received: From cmu-cs-c.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 10 Sep 84 22:11 EDT Received: ID ; Mon 10 Sep 84 22:14:54-EDT Date: Mon 10 Sep 84 22:14:52-EDT From: Mike Chepponis Subject: Re: dBASE II record limit To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I too have run into this problem RECORD NUMBER OUT OF RANGE, but this was in a database of only 38 members! I solved this by doing a SORT to another file, deleting the original file, and renaming the sorted file as the original name. It has been fine since. I don't know how I caused this weirdness to appear. Does anybody have the story (or maybe it's just RTFM). Tnx, -Mike ------- 11-Sep-84 08:40:51-MDT,1237;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 11 Sep 84 08:40:42-MDT Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 11 Sep 84 10:13 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a019634; 11 Sep 84 10:06 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 11 Sep 84 6:39-PDT Date: 10 Sep 84 7:25:56-PDT (Mon) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!tektronix!orca!iddic!rick@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: ampro caveat Article-I.D.: iddic.1805 I bought an Ampro 'Little Board' computer - and while I have no complaints about the hardware, they have come up with a new twist in software. Manuals are optional. One of the reasons I went with this outfit was that they prominently advertised that CP/M 2.2 came with the board. They did not mean the manuals, however. When I asked about this, the response was a list of CP/M books, including Digital Research. I can buy the standard manuals for $35. Selling software without manuals is ridiculous (except maybe to Mr. Pournelle, then he couldn't have any negative comments about the documentation :-) ). Just thought you might like to know . . . . Rick Coates tektronix!iddic!rick 11-Sep-84 09:26:57-MDT,532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 11 Sep 84 09:26:51-MDT Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 11 Sep 84 10:33 EDT Received: from apg-3.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a020605; 11 Sep 84 10:33 EDT Date: 11 Sep 1984 10:26:46 EDT (Tuesday) From: John Shaver STEEP-TM-AC 879-7602 Subject: Manuals or lack thereof To: info-cpm@brl.ARPA Cc: jshaver@apg-3.ARPA Rick Thinks he has problems. Does he talk to Apple ][e persons? John 11-Sep-84 13:09:15-MDT,854;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 11 Sep 84 13:09:06-MDT Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 11 Sep 84 14:42 EDT Received: from simtel20.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a028491; 11 Sep 84 14:36 EDT Date: 11 Sep 1984 12:36 MDT (Tue) Message-ID: From: Richard Conn To: info-cpm@brl.ARPA Subject: ZCPR3 Newsletter 5 Newsletter 5 is now stored in MICRO: on SIMTEL20 as Z3NEWS.005. All of the newsletters are now named Z3NEWS.nnn to match Echelon's convention. This newsletter talks about the new pricing for Z3-DOT-COM, the auto-installing version of ZCPR3, as well as the books, some of the utilities, the LDR bug, and the Z800. Lots of flash items are contained therein. Enjoy! Rick 11-Sep-84 13:30:33-MDT,934;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 11 Sep 84 13:30:21-MDT Received: From xerox.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 11 Sep 84 14:48 EDT Received: from Flora.ms by ArpaGateway.ms ; 11 SEP 84 11:50:50 PDT Date: 11 Sep 84 11:50:33 PDT (Tuesday) From: Chapman.ES@XEROX.ARPA Subject: Re: dBASE II record limit In-reply-to: Michael.Chepponis's message of Mon, 10 Sep 84 22:14:52 EDT To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA cc: Chapman.ES@XEROX.ARPA I once had this happen to me when a power glitch messed up my file. Everything looked ok when doing a disp struct (i.e. the correct number of records was displayed), but an append would end with the RECORD NUMBER OUT OF RANGE message. I fixed my problem by doing a pack, which ended up with one fewer records than I should have had. Then I found the missing record and inserted it back in where it belonged. Cheryl 11-Sep-84 14:21:21-MDT,952;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 11 Sep 84 14:21:13-MDT Received: From brl-gateway2.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 11 Sep 84 15:33 EDT Received: from apg-1.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a000272; 11 Sep 84 15:35 EDT Date: 11 Sep 1984 15:26:48 EDT (Tuesday) From: Robert Bloom DRSTE-TOI 3775 Subject: Re: Manuals or lack thereof In-Reply-to: Your message of 11 Sep 1984 10:26:46 EDT (Tuesday) To: John Shaver STEEP-TM-AC 879-7602 Cc: info-cpm@brl.ARPA The new Apple //c is much the same - except they try to give the impression that you don't really have to know anything more than how to turn it on, insert the disk and boot. So the manual tell *very* little more thatn that! (*Do* you have to know anything more than that anyway?? - Nope. As long as you never want to do anything more than turn it on, insert the disk and boot!) bob 11-Sep-84 21:34:43-MDT,726;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Tue 11 Sep 84 21:34:37-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 11 Sep 84 23:06 EDT Date: 11 Sep 1984 21:09 MDT (Tue) Message-ID: From: "Frank J. Wancho" To: INFO-CPM@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: New SIG/M Volumes Available SIG/M Volumes 177 through 192 are now available here as MICRO:, along with a new MICRO:. Note that Volumes 184 through 192 are the SIG/M distribution set for ZCPR3, which is also available in MICRO:. An updated version of MICRO:SIGM.CRCLST will be available shortly. --Frank 12-Sep-84 21:36:05-MDT,1052;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Wed 12 Sep 84 21:35:58-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 12 Sep 84 23:09 EDT Date: 12 Sep 1984 21:12 MDT (Wed) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Richard Conn Cc: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: ZCPR3 Newsletter 5 In-reply-to: Msg of 11 Sep 1984 12:36-MDT from Richard Conn Newsletter 5 is now stored in MICRO: on SIMTEL20 as Z3NEWS.005. All of the newsletters are now named Z3NEWS.nnn to match Echelon's convention. The new naming is going to cause a problem for all RCPM operators who would normally store these files SQueezed. It will be Z3NEWS.0Q5, which means when the news letters get to number 10 there will be a duplication of all the file names from that point onward. I liked the old naming convention - it came out xxx.ZQ --Keith 13-Sep-84 08:57:16-MDT,1217;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 13 Sep 84 08:57:09-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 13 Sep 84 10:27 EDT Date: 13 Sep 1984 08:31 MDT (Thu) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: Inside CP/M tutoral files now available in .LBR In-reply-to: Msg of 7 Jun 1984 05:32-MDT from Eric Stork From: Eric Stork To: W8SDZ Re: Inside CP/M tutoral files now available Re your note in INSIDCPM files...Looks like they are all short, and all interesting. It would save a lot of time and work if it is possible for you to combine them into a .LBR file, so that one can download at one crak. I do not mean removing the individual files; rather, adding a LBR file that contains them all. Good idea, Eric. The .LBR is now available for those who can FTP ITS-binary files from SIMTEL20 and want the whole package. Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory MICRO: INSIDCPM.LBR.1 COM 26496 B722H --Keith 13-Sep-84 13:29:44-MDT,671;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 13 Sep 84 13:29:34-MDT Received: From cmu-cs-c.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 13 Sep 84 14:51 EDT Received: ID ; Thu 13 Sep 84 14:49:47-EDT Date: Thu 13 Sep 84 14:49:42-EDT From: Lee.Sailer@CMU-CS-C.ARPA Subject: graphics tektronix 4014 To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA I am lookimg for graphics primitives for the TEK 401x machines that can be made to run on a Rainbow (cpm-80 or 86). Preferably in C or Pascal. I don't need anything really fancy, or even well-documented. I'll summarize responses, if it looks interesting. thanks ------- 13-Sep-84 13:53:21-MDT,793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 13 Sep 84 13:53:17-MDT Received: From cmu-cs-c.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 13 Sep 84 14:52 EDT Received: ID ; Thu 13 Sep 84 14:55:53-EDT Date: Thu 13 Sep 84 14:55:51-EDT From: Lee.Sailer@CMU-CS-C.ARPA Subject: Mince and it's relatives. To: info-cpm@AMSAA.ARPA SOmeone asked about MINCE? Carnegie-Mellon used to hand out MINCE and SCRIBBLE for about $100, but now they seem to have switched to an editor named EPSILON (also EMACS like). I believe that PERFECTWRITER's editor, and THE FINAL WORD's editor are also very emacs like. Also, thanks to all responses for OSBORNE VS. EMACS. The O almost runs EMACS well now. Summary forthcoming... ------- 13-Sep-84 19:49:56-MDT,553;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Thu 13 Sep 84 19:49:43-MDT Received: From mit-mc.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 13 Sep 84 19:30 EDT Date: 13 September 1984 16:33-EDT From: Herb Lin Subject: Mince and it's relatives. To: Lee.Sailer@Cmu-Cs-C.ARPA cc: info-cpm@Amsaa.ARPA In-reply-to: Msg of Thu 13 Sep 84 14:55:51-EDT from Lee.Sailer at CMU-CS-C.ARPA The Final Word is NOT EMACS-like; it uses a two dimensional control structure of verb-noun (e.g., DELETE WORD). 14-Sep-84 13:31:59-MDT,682;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 14 Sep 84 13:31:48-MDT Received: From bbn-cd.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 14 Sep 84 14:59 EDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 84 16:55:54 EDT From: Sam Lipson Subject: Disk driver repairs needed, got any recommendations? To: info-cpm@amsaa.arpa I've got two Tandom TM100-4 drives (5.25" DSDD 96TPI) I want to send out. One needs an alignment, the other needs more (I think). Does anyone have any experience with the repair by mail places that advertise? Anyone want to make a recommendation, (or a complaint) ? Thanks, --Sam Lipson slipson@bbncd 14-Sep-84 20:58:03-MDT,9557;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Fri 14 Sep 84 20:57:33-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 14 Sep 84 22:21 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id aa00451; 14 Sep 84 22:20 EDT Date: 14 September 1984 21:07-EDT From: "Allan D. Plehn" Subject: Changes/additions to SIMTEL20 micro:, 3 Sept. to 14 Sept. To: INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA Changes and additions to the SIMTEL20 micro: files since 3 September are shown below. The next report of changes and additions will be issued about the end of the month and will include the sub-directory name for each set of files. TYPE BYTES CHECKSUM **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-69 (2070) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-63 (1999) ASM-SUBS.LBR.1 COM 4224 D1ADH ASM-SUBS.MSG.1 ASCII 385 7460H ASM2.SUB.1 ASCII 155 FB0DH ASM2.ZEX.1 ASCII 343 A6F7H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-74 (2243) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-72 (2314) LASM.SUB.1 ASCII 157 1FD1H LASM.ZEX.1 ASCII 351 A7DAH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-79 (2415) MAC.FIX.1 ASCII 2619 98BCH **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-79 (2554) M80.SUB.1 ASCII 199 C97AH M80.ZEX.1 ASCII 1025 E484H MAC.FIX.1 ASCII 2619 98BCH MAC.SUB.1 ASCII 173 4296H MAC.ZEX.1 ASCII 358 F994H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-104 (3244) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-107 (3513) LETRPRFT.BAS.1 ASCII 5225 F447H LETRPRFT.DOC.1 ASCII 2580 96E5H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-107 (3334) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-113 (3681) BUDGET.BAS.1 ASCII 10524 73EBH BUILDSUB.BAS.1 ASCII 705 D72EH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-116 (3653) MBASIC.LIST.1 ASCII 4761 38A9H MBRSV13.BAS.1 ASCII 29596 DE7CH **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-124 (4074) FINANCE.BAS.1 ASCII 5458 B120H INTEREST.BAS.1 ASCII 921 603FH INTRATE.BAS.1 ASCII 1317 3074H INVSTMNT.LBR.1 COM 11904 3A8CH MBASIC.LIST.1 ASCII 4761 38A9H MBRSV13.BAS.1 ASCII 29596 DE7CH MORTGAGE.BAS.1 ASCII 4883 0EE5H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-123 (3908) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-136 (4515) SATELITE.BAS.1 ASCII 4853 A9C6H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-261 (8366) FIND40.COM.1 COM 1664 D443H FIND40.HEX.1 ASCII 4693 517AH MCAT.SET.1 ASCII 3701 44D5H MCAT43.AQM.1 COM 28032 3472H MCAT43.ASM.1 ASCII 40975 D74AH MCAT43.COM.1 COM 6912 AFA4H MCAT43.DOC.1 ASCII 7273 0DFBH MCAT43.HEX.1 ASCII 16840 C2BAH **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-275 (9011) FIND50.COM.1 COM 2560 0850H FIND50.DOC.1 ASCII 4940 F190H MCAT.DOC.1 ASCII 7261 8223H MCAT.SET.1 ASCII 3701 44D5H MCAT45.AQM.1 COM 27776 5ED1H MCAT45.ASM.1 ASCII 40551 EE70H MCAT45.COM.1 COM 7040 3DF6H MCAT45.HEX.1 ASCII 17148 00C7H MCAT45.LBR.1 COM 79360 46FAH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-283 (9086) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-298 (9763) BDPATCH.ASM.1 ASCII 2682 78B7H BDPATCH.BUG.1 ASCII 1357 C978H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-349 (11245) LUDEF4.DOC.1 ASCII 9449 BF2EH **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-366 (11996) *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-444 (14466) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-460 (15181) UNERA30.ASM.1 ASCII 15141 C900H UNERA30.COM.1 COM 1408 5F6EH UNERA30.DOC.1 ASCII 3154 D857H UNERA30.HEX.1 ASCII 3440 829AH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-572 (18611) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-592 (19472) MICRO: EZCPR.COM.1 COM 11008 288EH EZCPR.HEX.1 ASCII 26800 F914H EZCPR.LBR.1 COM 59008 17C9H EZINST.HLP.1 ASCII 36586 60ECH EZINST.HQP.1 COM 21376 899BH GUARD.COM.1 COM 10752 A57CH GUARD.HEX.1 ASCII 26184 267EH SYS215.COM.1 COM 7680 5889H SYS215.HEX.1 ASCII 18701 8FA9H WIZ.COM.1 COM 7936 9F93H WIZ.HEX.1 ASCII 19330 3B54H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-701 (22955) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-734 (24210) PRLOD.ASM.1 ASCII 3247 F8A2H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-885 (29177) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-919 (30467) INSIDCPM.LBR.1 COM 26496 B722H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-908 (29954) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-943 (31280) KP4TIME2.ASM.1 ASCII 21849 9F1EH KP4TIME2.COM.1 COM 896 C8F0H KP4TIME2.HEX.1 ASCII 2195 87D9H KP4TIME2.INF.1 ASCII 1526 86F0H KP4TIME2.LBR.1 COM 13824 A3E7H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-961 (31679) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1000 (33189) QMUL.MAC.1 ASCII 3934 4EFEH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-994 (32808) MX111UPD.DOC.1 ASCII 670 3A03H **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1035 (34354) MX-SM13A.ASM.1 ASCII 9335 1E83H MX-SM13A.FIX.1 ASCII 1249 35E7H MX111UPD.DOC.1 ASCII 670 3A03H MX11HK1.ASM.1 ASCII 934 8863H MXM-US13.ASM.1 ASCII 26488 FC0DH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1006 (33264) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1051 (34961) MXO-KP28.ASM.1 ASCII 37584 D19EH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1026 (34024) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1072 (35759) MXO-SY20.ASM.1 ASCII 20659 4989H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1032 (34216) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1078 (35987) MXSUM831.MSG.1 ASCII 19189 0665H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1073 (35585) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1121 (37396) HAYS1200.FIX.1 ASCII 3948 68C2H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1138 (37869) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1187 (39718) M7FA-2.ASM.1 ASCII 15302 236EH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1144 (38080) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1194 (39965) M7H82661.ASM.1 ASCII 10021 96AAH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1189 (39698) M7TV-1.ASM.1 ASCII 11026 DC93H **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1240 (41621) M7TV-6.ASM.1 ASCII 13379 D54BH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1290 (43072) MXO-PM10.ASM.1 ASCII 27731 2C28H **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1341 (44995) *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1379 (46037) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1429 (47922) PLOT33.LBR.1 COM 154752 7BD8H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1440 (48077) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1491 (49996) LUX30.LBR.1 COM 80384 3BD9H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1559 (52123) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1611 (54075) MICRO: -READ.ME.1 ASCII 86 FF25H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1842 (61641) HEXIFY.EXE.2 ASCII 12800 D3ECH HEXIFY.MAC.2 ASCII 6695 7D01H **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1897 (63654) HEXCOM.EXE.1 ASCII 12800 691FH HEXCOM.HLP.1 ASCII 180 9CB4H HEXCOM.MAC.1 ASCII 6165 45ABH HEXIFY.EXE.4 ASCII 12800 BB6EH HEXIFY.HLP.1 ASCII 433 A7FEH HEXIFY.MAC.4 ASCII 8418 DB59H *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-1848 (61857) MODEM.EXE.244 ASCII 20480 FC1DH MODEM.MAC.244 ASCII 41904 EF20H NCRC.MID.2 ASCII 7685 83A9H TYPE8.EXE.3 ASCII 845 6341H TYPE8.MID.3 ASCII 1615 B56BH TYPESQ.MID1.1 ASCII 30 77ABH **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-1907 (64014) MODEM.EXE.248 ASCII 20480 B8D4H MODEM.MAC.248 ASCII 42695 DF38H NCRC.EXE.5 ASCII 4190 2F7CH NCRC.MID.5 ASCII 9100 13AEH TYPE8.EXE.3 ASCII 845 6341H TYPE8.MID.3 ASCII 1615 B56BH TYPESQ.MID.1 ASCII 30 77ABH *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-2304 (76985) NEWS001.Z3.1 ASCII 2872 70AAH NEWS002.Z3.1 ASCII 5912 0D6CH NEWS003.Z3.1 ASCII 30948 5A95H NEWS004.Z3.1 ASCII 11914 40B0H **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-2364 (79175) *************** **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 03 SEPTEMBER, 1-2405 (80359) **** MICRO:CPM.CRCLST AS OF 14 SEPTEMBER, 1-2461 (82405) Z3NEWS.001.1 ASCII 2872 70AAH Z3NEWS.002.1 ASCII 5912 0D6CH Z3NEWS.003.1 ASCII 30948 5A95H Z3NEWS.004.1 ASCII 11914 40B0H Z3NEWS.005.1 ASCII 12181 F4E2H *************** Al Plehn 15-Sep-84 11:10:05-MDT,911;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Sep 84 11:10:00-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 15 Sep 84 10:46 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id aa12599; 15 Sep 84 10:46 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 15 Sep 84 3:12-PDT Date: 12 Sep 84 23:23:00-PDT (Wed) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: pur-ee!uiucdcs!hohensee@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Rainbow Graphics - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.36300003 #N:uiucdcs:36300003:000:311 uiucdcs!hohensee Sep 12 01:23:00 1984 <> might anyone in net land have had any experience working with graphics and the DEC Rainbow? i should like to (consider) writing a LOGO for the Rainbow, and realized that such information represents an important starting point. any suggestions? thanks much, bill hohensee hohensee@uiucdcs 217-333-5272 15-Sep-84 11:23:34-MDT,834;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Sep 84 11:23:31-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 15 Sep 84 12:59 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a013305; 15 Sep 84 12:54 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 15 Sep 84 4:59-PDT Date: 12 Sep 84 13:19:16-PDT (Wed) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: ucsfcgl!harrison@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Re: How to access SIMTEL20? Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.342 In-Reply-To: Article <13082@sri-arpa.UUCP> Use FTP with user name anonymous to log on to SIMTEL-20. Use any printable string as password ( I found this out today...used to use anonymous as the password). Look at docs on your system for FTP. You do need to know how to move around and get directories. Peter Harrison 15-Sep-84 11:51:49-MDT,3398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Sep 84 11:51:38-MDT Received: From simtel20.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 15 Sep 84 13:10 EDT Date: 15 Sep 1984 09:55 MDT (Sat) Message-ID: Sender: KPETERSEN@Simtel20.ARPA From: Keith Petersen To: Info-Cpm@Amsaa.ARPA Subject: FTNOTE14 WordStar footnoter now available FTNOTE, the footnote program for use with WordStar, has been updated to version 1.4 and is now available from SIMTEL20. A short list of the updates and a general description of the program follow the directory listing: Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory MICRO: FTNOTE14.COM.1 COM 17408 F366H FTNOTE14.DOC.2 ASCII 25756 D58DH FTNOTE14.DQC.1 COM 16256 10D7H FTNOTE14.HEX.1 ASCII 42382 449BH FTNOTE14.INF.1 ASCII 1457 3BC1H Version 1.4 incorporates several improvements over the previous version 1.33 of FTNOTE.COM. The DOC file has been updated accordingly. ADDITIONAL FEATURES: (1) Larger page numbers are now supported (up to 999). The page number reference syntax has been changed accordingly, and is no longer compatible with that of versions 1.3x. (2) Larger footnote numbers (up to 999) are now available as an option. (Old style numbers to 99 are still supported.) (3) The footnote separator line length can now be adjusted by a user patch. In addition, if the character "_" is used, this line will no longer collide with footnote superscripts. MINOR BUGS FIXED: (1) "-e" and "-r" modes now allow "#1" to remain in footnotes. Previously "-e" replaced "#1" with "##" in the notes. This has no effect on format mode, but caused misnumbered end notes, when "-n" mode was used. (2) The ".FI" dot command now looks for the specified file on the same drive as the original file. Previously it looked on the default drive, even if a drive was specified on the command line. (3) Attempts to set an already set page marker now generate the error message "! duplicate ref". Previously the original setting was simply overridden. FTNOTE.COM is a formatting utility for WordStar files. Its main function is to allow the printing of WordStar documents with page-bottom footnotes, but it does internal page referencing and improved block formatting as well. FTNOTE will automatically move your footnotes into and out of your text file; number them for use as end notes; or produce a printable file with them at page bottom. FTNOTE is an effective but simple program. It does NOT attempt to duplicate the existing capabilities of WordStar: editing, justification, or printing. It is a utility to be used in conjunction with WordStar. FEATURES: * simple, natural file format * automatic separation of text and notes * will produce end notes or footnotes as desired * automatic footnote numbering * numbering can match up across multiple files * page-mode or continuous footnote numbers * long notes will continue on next page * many formatting options allow flexible results * automatic internal page reference numbering * useful improved figure-block formatting * can be run FROM WORDSTAR with Main Menu "R" command --Keith 15-Sep-84 17:37:44-MDT,1036;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Sep 84 17:37:39-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 15 Sep 84 19:14 EDT Received: from sri-unix.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id aa18495; 15 Sep 84 19:14 EDT Received: from Usenet.uucp by Sri-Unix.uucp with rs232; 15 Sep 84 11:12-PDT Date: 11 Sep 84 8:07:58-PDT (Tue) To: info-cpm@BRL.ARPA From: hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!bmcg!asgb!rob@UCB-VAX.ARPA Subject: Re: ampro caveat Article-I.D.: asgb.542 The reason for selling the manual separately is not to rook the individual buying only one. It prevents the person or business that buys truckloads from having to buy more manuals than they need. If I was selling a special purpose computer and my customer didn't need the manual, I sure wouldn't want one per board. Hopefully they made it very clear in their add though, because I'd also be ticked if I bought a single board and was SURPRISED buy not getting the manual. Rob Greenbank Burroughs, Boulder CO 15-Sep-84 19:12:55-MDT,4219;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AMSAA by SIMTEL20.ARPA with TCP; Sat 15 Sep 84 19:12:41-MDT Received: From brl.arpa.ARPA by AMSAA via smtp; 15 Sep 84 20:36 EDT Received: from mit-mc.arpa by BRL-AOS.ARPA id a020353; 15 Sep 84 20:36 EDT Date: 15 September 1984 20:34-EDT From: "Stephen C. Hill" Subject: Epson PX-8 (Geneva) review To: ARPEE@mit-mc.ARPA, INFO-CPM@mit-mc.ARPA cc: STEVEH@mit-mc.ARPA Let me preface this with the comment that I was only able to get close enough to play with this unit for about 10 minutes, so this will not be a thorough review. My frame of reference is my NEC-8201A lap computer. The unit seems to be well constructed, and about the size of a piece of paper (nominally 8.5 by 11") and less than 2" thick. It has two stubs that rotate from the back to become feet that adjust the angle of the keyboard. The keyboard is relatively quiet, and has a short row of function keys above it (five PF keys and and keys). It has four arrow keys, and I believe that I saw two control keys. There is a removable cover that protects the keys when the unit is not being used. The display is 80x8, with better resolution than the HP Portable that I saw three weeks ago. The display rotates up from a face-down protective position into several detented positions. Additionally, there is a control on the display that adjusts the "viewing angle". The big selling point that I had heard about was the unit runs CP/M on a Z-80 chip, and has several bundled software products on ROM chips. There are slots for two ROM chips to be loaded at a time, and they are treated as ROM-disk drives B: and C:. There is 15K RAM disk available as driv