8-Feb-89 18:11:06-MST,1344;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 8-Feb-89 18:10:39 Date: 8 Feb 89 15:49:36 GMT Sender: aguada@athena.mit.edu (Carlos Acevedo) Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Wed, 8 Feb 89 10:08:10 MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.33) id AA06803; Wed, 8 Feb 89 07:58:19 -0800 From: aguada@athena.mit.edu (Carlos Acevedo) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Subject: NorthStar support Message-Id: <9158@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> To: info-micro@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ReSent-To: Northstar-Users ReSent-Date: Wed 8 Feb 1989 18:10-MST I need help!!! I have a lot of experimental data stored in a NorthStar machine. It uses 51/4" floppies and "NorthStar DOS" which I can't read into any other computer. I need to recover this information somehow and I am not enough of a hacker to write a code to do the trick. Is there any one out there who knows how to do this? Is there any chance that Kermit was ever ported to the NorthStar? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Hector aguada@athena.mit.edu 9-Feb-89 13:35:04-MST,1365;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 9-Feb-89 13:35:00 Date: Wed 09 Feb 1989 13:20:31 EDT Sender: Return-Path: Received: from LL.ARPA by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Thu, 9 Feb 89 11:21:15 MST From: Subject: NorthStar Support To: Northstar-Users@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Local addressee: SAGE Message-ID: >> I need help!!! I have a lot of experimental data stored in a NorthStar >> machine....which I can't read There is a card that you can buy from MicroSolutions (same people who make the UniDos Z80 card that has been discussed here recently) that will allow an XT or AT to format, read, and write NorthStar hard-sector-format CP/M diskettes. I assume that these are the same diskettes as those for what you refer to as NorthStar DOS. If you have only a small number of diskettes, I would be willing to have you send them to me, and I would convert them to some other standard format (such as MS-DOS 360K or 1.2M 5"). There would be a few simple conditions, so check with me first. If you still have the NorthStar machine, I do have a version of MDM727 (MODEM7) for it -- that's how I used to get files to and from that machine. -- Jay Sage MIT Lincoln Laboratory PO Box 73 Lexington, MA 02173-0073 617-981-4704 11-Feb-89 19:45:23-MST,833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AI.AI.MIT.EDU by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Sat, 11 Feb 89 19:44:18 MST Date: Sat, 11 Feb 89 03:15:54 EST From: Devon Sean McCullough Subject: NorthStar DOS vs. NorthStar CP/M To: SAGE@LL.ARPA cc: Northstar-Users@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL In-reply-to: Msg of Wed 09 Feb 1989 13:20:31 EDT from Message-ID: <536283.890211.DEVON@AI.AI.MIT.EDU> You should know that North*Star DOS is nothing like CP/M. Fortunately the North*Star DOS disk layout is so simple you can hack it by hand if necessary, the directory is on the first four sectors and files are simply blocks of consecutive physical disk sectors. If anyone went to all the trouble of handling the CP/M disk layout surely they also provided for N*DOS disk layout? 23-Feb-89 11:47:21-MST,2214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Thu, 23 Feb 89 11:43:48 MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12140; Wed, 22 Feb 89 12:45:41 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for northstar-users@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (northstar-users@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 22 Feb 89 20:06:51 GMT From: uxc!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!harris.cis.ksu.edu!mac@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) Organization: Kansas State University, Dept of Computing & Information Sciences Subject: NorthStar (and other) stuff Message-Id: <950@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> Sender: northstar-users-request@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil To: northstar-users@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil While doing some cleaning, I found several Northstar (and other) boards and other stuff I've accumulated over many years. Is there ANY market for such things now, or should I just trash them? I have: * 4 Northstar 16Kbyte S-100 dynamic RAM boards (fully populated), * 4 Northstar 16Kbyte S-100 dynamic RAM boards (UNpopulated), * 3 Solid State Music S-100 music maker boards (NOT RAM!), * 2 Digital Group 16Kbyte static RAM boards, * 1 Computalker S-100 board, * 1 Cromemco S-100 DAZZLER board, * 1 MPA S-100 board (adapts a 6502 chip to run on an S-100 bus), * 1 Northstar S-100 Micro Disk controller board, and * 1 whole VECTOR 4 computer with a 10 MByte hard disk, a 600Kbyte hard-sectored floppy drive, 128Kbyte RAM, a "modified" (i.e., no on-card voltage regulators) S-100 bus, and over 100 diskettes of stuff including dBase II, BCSD (?) C, assembler, a spreadsheet, a word processor, CP/M (8-bit CPU) AND CP/M-86 (16-bit CPU) (and I've been offered a Vector version of MS-DOS for only $80!) I'd like to SELL everything, but whatever I do, I've got to make more room in my computer "shack" for incoming stuff! --Myron -- Myron A. Calhoun, PhD EE, W0PBV, (913) 532-6350 (work), 539-4448 (home). INTERNET: mac@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu BITNET: mac@ksuvax1.bitnet UUCP: ...{rutgers, texbell}!ksuvax1!harry!harv 8-Feb-89 18:11:06-MST,1344;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 8-Feb-89 18:10:39 Date: 8 Feb 89 15:49:36 GMT Sender: aguada@athena.mit.edu (Carlos Acevedo) Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Wed, 8 Feb 89 10:08:10 MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.33) id AA06803; Wed, 8 Feb 89 07:58:19 -0800 From: aguada@athena.mit.edu (Carlos Acevedo) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Subject: NorthStar support Message-Id: <9158@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> To: info-micro@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ReSent-From: KPETERSEN@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL ReSent-To: Northstar-Users ReSent-Date: Wed 8 Feb 1989 18:10-MST I need help!!! I have a lot of experimental data stored in a NorthStar machine. It uses 51/4" floppies and "NorthStar DOS" which I can't read into any other computer. I need to recover this information somehow and I am not enough of a hacker to write a code to do the trick. Is there any one out there who knows how to do this? Is there any chance that Kermit was ever ported to the NorthStar? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Hector aguada@athena.mit.edu 9-Feb-89 13:35:04-MST,1365;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 9-Feb-89 13:35:00 Date: Wed 09 Feb 1989 13:20:31 EDT Sender: Return-Path: Received: from LL.ARPA by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Thu, 9 Feb 89 11:21:15 MST From: Subject: NorthStar Support To: Northstar-Users@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Local addressee: SAGE Message-ID: >> I need help!!! I have a lot of experimental data stored in a NorthStar >> machine....which I can't read There is a card that you can buy from MicroSolutions (same people who make the UniDos Z80 card that has been discussed here recently) that will allow an XT or AT to format, read, and write NorthStar hard-sector-format CP/M diskettes. I assume that these are the same diskettes as those for what you refer to as NorthStar DOS. If you have only a small number of diskettes, I would be willing to have you send them to me, and I would convert them to some other standard format (such as MS-DOS 360K or 1.2M 5"). There would be a few simple conditions, so check with me first. If you still have the NorthStar machine, I do have a version of MDM727 (MODEM7) for it -- that's how I used to get files to and from that machine. -- Jay Sage MIT Lincoln Laboratory PO Box 73 Lexington, MA 02173-0073 617-981-4704 11-Feb-89 19:45:23-MST,833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from AI.AI.MIT.EDU by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Sat, 11 Feb 89 19:44:18 MST Date: Sat, 11 Feb 89 03:15:54 EST From: Devon Sean McCullough Subject: NorthStar DOS vs. NorthStar CP/M To: SAGE@LL.ARPA cc: Northstar-Users@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL In-reply-to: Msg of Wed 09 Feb 1989 13:20:31 EDT from Message-ID: <536283.890211.DEVON@AI.AI.MIT.EDU> You should know that North*Star DOS is nothing like CP/M. Fortunately the North*Star DOS disk layout is so simple you can hack it by hand if necessary, the directory is on the first four sectors and files are simply blocks of consecutive physical disk sectors. If anyone went to all the trouble of handling the CP/M disk layout surely they also provided for N*DOS disk layout? 23-Feb-89 11:47:21-MST,2214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL with TCP; Thu, 23 Feb 89 11:43:48 MST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12140; Wed, 22 Feb 89 12:45:41 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for northstar-users@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (northstar-users@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 22 Feb 89 20:06:51 GMT From: uxc!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!harris.cis.ksu.edu!mac@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Myron A. Calhoun) Organization: Kansas State University, Dept of Computing & Information Sciences Subject: NorthStar (and other) stuff Message-Id: <950@deimos.cis.ksu.edu> Sender: northstar-users-request@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil To: northstar-users@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil While doing some cleaning, I found several Northstar (and other) boards and other stuff I've accumulated over many years. Is there ANY market for such things now, or should I just trash them? I have: * 4 Northstar 16Kbyte S-100 dynamic RAM boards (fully populated), * 4 Northstar 16Kbyte S-100 dynamic RAM boards (UNpopulated), * 3 Solid State Music S-100 music maker boards (NOT RAM!), * 2 Digital Group 16Kbyte static RAM boards, * 1 Computalker S-100 board, * 1 Cromemco S-100 DAZZLER board, * 1 MPA S-100 board (adapts a 6502 chip to run on an S-100 bus), * 1 Northstar S-100 Micro Disk controller board, and * 1 whole VECTOR 4 computer with a 10 MByte hard disk, a 600Kbyte hard-sectored floppy drive, 128Kbyte RAM, a "modified" (i.e., no on-card voltage regulators) S-100 bus, and over 100 diskettes of stuff including dBase II, BCSD (?) C, assembler, a spreadsheet, a word processor, CP/M (8-bit CPU) AND CP/M-86 (16-bit CPU) (and I've been offered a Vector version of MS-DOS for only $80!) I'd like to SELL everything, but whatever I do, I've got to make more room in my computer "shack" for incoming stuff! --Myron -- Myron A. Calhoun, PhD EE, W0PBV, (913) 532-6350 (work), 539-4448 (home). INTERNET: mac@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu BITNET: mac@ksuvax1.bitnet UUCP: ...{rutgers, texbell}!ksuvax1!harry!harv