From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Jan 6 00:00:00 2003 Subject: The status of this file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/pd2ans.txt Frequently asked Garbo questions with answers, T.Salmi Or, with the version number included ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/pd2aw102.txt This file has mostly been superseded by a set of more modern-day WWW-based FAQ pages located at Some Frequently Asked Garbo Questions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html#faq -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:00 1998 Subject: Prerecorded Garbo instructions The old, partly outdated information ==================================== ------------------- begin prerecorded message ---------------------- .................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Co-moderator of news:comp.archives.msdos.announce Moderating at ftp:// & http://garbo.uwasa.fi archives 193.166.120.5 Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa mailto:ts@uwasa.fi ; FIN-65101, Finland Spam foiling in effect. My email filter autoresponder will return a required email password to users not yet in the privileges database. There are some frequently asked questions about the programs available from garbo.uwasa.fi, by anonymous FTP and WWW from the /pc/ and other directories here at the University of Vaasa, Finland, site 193.166.120.5. Below you will find many of them prerecorded with answers. Please notice that the questions & answers are not in any logical order. The order has more or less been dictated by the arriving questions. And, there is overlapping. If you are well familiar with FTP and mail servers please note the following. Using automated FTP (batchftp) is preferred, since it minimizes the connection time (it is convenient for you, anyway). Furthermore, use mail servers *ONLY* if you don't have the FTP potential. Please also note that many recurring MS-DOS FTP site related and similar questions are answered in ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/camfaq.zip Recurring Garbo related questions are alternatively, and often more currently available at http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html#faq ................................................................ FTP archives http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ University of Vaasa, Finland ................................................................ 1) What is this anonymous ftp? 2) Send file(s) to me by email. (Or how to use the mail server?) 3) Are there any other options for getting the files? 4) Do you announce all your new programs on the Usenet news? 5) How is anonymous ftp used? 6) When I try to unpack the package I received, it is corrupt. 7) Send me a list where on Simtel.Net I can find the same programs. 8) What is Garbo's guest user-id? 9) The .arc .arj .lzh .pak .rar .uc2 .zip .zoo extensions, what are they? 10) I have written some programs or papers myself. Are you interested? 11) I want a description of the programs to decide what to get. 12) Why don't you reply to my email messages? 13) I get an "unknown packing method" error message. 14) I need a program for such and such purpose. Any directions? 15) What are these peculiar files with a .Z extension? 16) What if my site does not know Garbo or connection refused? 17) Is there any way of automating getting the files? 18) Why doesn't your mail server respond to my correct request? 19) Are Garbo files mirrored? Which directories? How to connect? 20) The answer to my question is not in this list, what next? ................................................................... From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:01 1998 Subject: What is anonymous FTP 1. ***** Q: I do not understand this getting files with anonymous ftp. What does it mean? A: FTP stands for file transfer program, which is a standard feature in many mainframe Unix and VAX/VMS systems (and often also available on Linux and Windows PCs). It also means that you must have a network connection to reach the University of Vaasa. Please contact your computer's system manager for more information on the connection. When this is ok, just follow the instructions in Appendix A at the end of this prerecorded message. A2: If you are familiar with the World Wide Web (using programs like Netscape, Internet Explorer, Lynx, etc) Garbo's home page URL is naturally http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ and to access the files click the appropriate button on that page. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:02 1998 Subject: Email server instructions This item is no longer valid. Garbo's mail server has been discontinued as an outmoded method of transferring the files, and because of the extra load it causes on the system. 2. ***** Q: Many of us users have no ftp access. Would you please send programs to me by email. A: To get files sent to you by email, please use our mail server. To get more information write an email message to ftpmail@garbo.uwasa.fi. The subject line of this message can be anything, e.g. garbo-request The message must contain just the following text (at the beginning of the line): help Do not include a signature because it may confuse the server. If you do not understand, please don't send the mail server request. If you have ftp capability, please use FTP only, since it causes less load. When you get the instructions from our ftpmail, take it up from there. Please don't ask me about the problems with Garbo's mailing list that you might be having. I do not maintain Garbo's mail server and this is practically all I know about it. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:03 1998 Subject: Poor souls without FTP 3. ***** Q: Are there any other options for getting the files? A: If you have a modem, Finnish users can call Walli BBS for the files. The settings are 9600,N,8,1. When connecting the first time give "guest" as your login. This information is subject to changes. (Walli BBS has been discontinued!) The Garbo file collection is also available on a CDROM which can be obtained from WasaWare Oy, Email: harri.valkama@wasaware.fi . Unfortunately, there is only the initial, very old version of the CDROM and it has never been updated since. As for sending the requested files physically on disks, we do not provide such a service. Please do not even ask. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:04 1998 Subject: Are all programs announced 4. ***** Q: Do you announce all your new programs on the Usenet news? A: Yes, we try to, in the news:comp.archives.msdos.announce and news:comp.archives.ms-windows.announce newsgroups, and also on the Garbo announcements mailing list. For information on the mailing list please see the information file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/GANN-INF.TXT. It is up to our uploaders to email us a proper upload announcement for the distribution, as explained in the uploading instructions ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPLOAD.TXT and the announcement formula ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPTEXT.TXT. You might wish to take a look at ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/_files.in. It gives the current month's raw list of all our new MS-DOS files. For an annotated list of earlier new uploads each month see the file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/filelist/garb1997.zip. Two further files are of relevance for you. First the file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/news_pd2.txt gives selected information about uploads. Not quite all, but on those of special interest. Second, ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/0news_ts.txt gives information about all the uploads in the ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts.html directory. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:05 1998 Subject: FTP transfer commands 5. ***** Q: I have the ftp (file transfer program) capability and a network access that includes your Garbo archive site. But how do I transfer the files? What are the commands? A: The information and examples in Appendix A of this message should enable you to get the files. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:06 1998 Subject: Allegedly corrupt packages 6. ***** Q: I have received the programs but the package is corrupt. When I try to unpack them with my unpacking program (pkunzip, unzip, pkxarc, pkunpak, arc, lharc, zoo, arj, etc.) the unpacking fails or produces files that lock my PC. A: The files with the .zip, .zoo, .arc, .arj, .lzh, .pak, .uc2, .rar and .exe extension are binary packages and you have to use the correct transfer mode when you transfer the programs from the remote FTP site to our host, and when you transfer the files from our main frame to your PC. Most frequently the problems the users report are due to failing to set the binary mode when transferring the files from the user's host to the users PC. Please see Appendix B for more information. In 1993 there was been over four million successful downloads from Garbo. Thus it is very unlikely that the original file at Garbo really is corrupt. It is not impossible, but first check all the other possibilities. There is another common cause for allegedly corrupt packages besides failing to use the correct mode in the file transfer from the FTP site to one's own host, or in the file transfer from one's own host to one's PC. This is failing to use the correct version of the relevant archiver for archived packages. Unfortunately some of the PKUNZIP error messages are quite misleading, like "CRC error", "use pkzip 3.8 (or whatever)", "use PkFixZip". Just assure that you have transferred correctly and that are using the current version: 202574 Feb 1 1993 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe pkz204g.exe PKWARE's pkzip, pkunzip, pkzipfix, zip2exe for .zip or 247148 Nov 29 1998 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/unz540x3.exe unz540x3.exe Info-ZIP's self-extracting unzipper (with 386 version) For the Windows 3.1x environment use e.g. 629038 Sep 26 1997 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/arcers/wz16v63.exe wz16v63.exe WinZip for Win 3.1 w/Built-in ZIP, TAR, gzip, compress For Windows 95/98 709120 Sep 26 1997 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/win95/arcers/wz32v63.exe wz32v63.exe WinZip for Windows 95, Nico Mak Computing The World Wide Web has added the possibility of getting the files from the archive sites also with the WWW browser programs. It appears that (at least with some of the browser versions) in a long session the browser gets confused and cannot get the files in the proper format. If you are experiencing such problems, exit your browser, reload it, and then try to get the target file anew. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:07 1998 Subject: Simtel.Net questions 7. ***** Q: I would rather like to get the files from Simtel.Net (or some other archive site near me) since I have an easier access there. Send me a list telling in which directories the files are at Simtel.Net or some other near-by FTP archive. A: No! We are often asked this (and other) information about Simtel.Net and other archive sites, including mirror sites. This really is something you should be finding out from Simtel, or the mirroring or whichever site, not us! Or, use some good WWW search engine to locate where else on the net your target file might be. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:08 1998 Subject: What is Garbo's guest user-id 8. ***** Q: Do you have a guest user-id? I cannot ftp, but I can reach your site through the net. I type anonymous at the login: and then try to give my email address at the Password:. I am not let in, but get a "Login incorrect" message instead. A: We do not accept guest users on Garbo. This means that what you tried, is not allowed at our site. The only direct ways you can get connected to our system are using the true ftp system, which is described in Appendix A, or using the World Wide Web address http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ or http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:09 1998 Subject: The .arc .arj .lzh .pak .rar .uc2 .zip .zoo extensions 9. ***** Q: I now have the files, but they have this .zip (or .arc, .arj, .lzh, .pak, .rar, .sdn, .uc2, .zoo) extension and they won't run then I write their name at my DOS prompt. A: The files are packed (also often called archived) entities. These are special formats of compressing files and packing several files together. This is usually standard knowledge for PC users, and if you are not familiar with the system, just ask a knowledgeable fellow user. What you need is the proper unpacking programs such as PKUNZIP, UNZIP, ARJ, ARC, PKXARC, PKUNPAK, PAK, LHARC, LHA, UC2, RAR, ZOO and so on. And, you will find all the necessary tools for handling packed files in the /pc/arcers directory. For example, if the extension is .zip get the self-extracting 202574 Feb 1 1993 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe pkz204g.exe PKWARE's pkzip, pkunzip, pkzipfix, zip2exe for .zip or 247148 Nov 29 1998 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/unz540x3.exe unz540x3.exe Info-ZIP's self-extracting unzipper (with 386 version) For the Windows 3.1x environment use e.g. 629038 Sep 26 1997 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/arcers/wz16v63.exe wz16v63.exe WinZip for Win 3.1 w/Built-in ZIP, TAR, gzip, compress Note that if you use an out of date PKUNZIP version, it may report a CRC error in your .zip file although the true reason for your problems is using the out of date version. Likewise, if you have failed to transfer the file in the binary mode, you may get an unexpected, illogical error message like "requires PKUNZIP 3.0 or higher version". -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:10 1998 Subject: Upload instructions 10. ***** Q: I have written some programs myself which I think might be of general interest. Or I have obtained this fabulous program which I think would be of general interest. Or I have a more recent version of this program than you have on your archives. Or I have this scientific paper I would like to submit to your repository. Would it be possible to upload them to your system. A: Please see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPLOAD.TXT and /pc/UPTEXT.TXT for the full information on this question. In brief, we welcome quality MS-DOS uploads in many, but not all categories. Please READ THIS MATERIAL VERY CAREFULLY BEFORE UPLOADING to Garbo. Following the instructions will save your own and our time. First please check http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbinfo/garb1996.html "What is Garbo's current incoming uploads open/closed status?" -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:11 1998 Subject: Need file descriptions 11. ***** Q: Is there a description of the programs? I would like to have some information on the files before I start transferring them. A: Yes, certainly. This approach is even recommended. There is a file called ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEX.ZIP (with MS-DOS eolns) which is the annotated list of the MS-DOS files on Garbo. This index file is also available in the (more bloated) ascii format as ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/filelist/INDEX.TXT (but please rather use ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEX.ZIP). It is also available in Unix compressed format ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/filelist/garboidx.gz (Unix eolns). Furthermore, there are three news files ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/news_pd2.txt ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/0news_ts.txt ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/ts/0news_u.txt Note that /pc/pd2/news_pd2.txt contains selected news on all /pc (MS-DOS) and /windows (Win 3.1x) directories, not just on /pc/pd2. Then there is a ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP. It contains detailed information on the contents of each package in the /pc/ts directory. For the Windows see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/WINDEX.ZIP and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/win95/W95INDEX.ZIP For the annotated contents of our Unix directories see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/UINDEX.ZIP For the annotated list of garbo.uwasa.fi Sinclair QL files see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/ql/QLINDEX.TXT A2: Even if I like to try to help whenever I can, I cannot answer questions asking me to describe particular files, or to take a closer look what is in them on behalf of an individual user. I simply cannot afford the time. Please do not even ask. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:12 1998 Subject: Problems with sending replies 12. ***** Q: I sent you a message a couple of weeks ago. Did you receive it? Why don't you reply? A: I try to reply to all queries I have received. But getting the reply to you successfully is not always technically possible. The reason for this is that the reply-address which the email program gives, is sometimes not adequate. My reply bounces back to me as a consequence. I am afraid that I get so much email that if my reply bounces I simply can't afford the time to try to do anything at all about it. Not even to look if your email message contains an alternative address. So if you don't hear from me within five days, contact your own system manager. Ask him/her to see to it that your email address in your message header is a returnable address. A2: Please see http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbinfo/garb3040.html and http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/spamfoil.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:13 1998 Subject: Unknown packing methods 13. ***** Q: When I try to unpack the package I get something like an "unknown packing method" error message. What is wrong? A: First check that you are using the correct unpacking program by looking at the extension of the file name, and select the unpacking program accordingly. If this does not help, you are most likely using an outdated version of the relevant unpacking program. Get the latest version. The ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers directory at Garbo has a good collection of these tools. Or, in WWW-page terms http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:14 1998 Subject: Looking for particular programs 14. ***** Q: I am interested to know if there exists a program for such and such purpose. Would you point me in the right direction. (This question also often occurs in the news postings, especially in the comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted and comp.archives.msdos.d newsgroups.) A: Most often the best answer is to look through file lists. We have several such lists which should together have quite a good coverage of the shareware, freeware and public domain programs in circulation. The lists and files to see include ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEX.ZIP ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/WINDEX.ZIP ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/win95/W95INDEX.ZIP ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/UINDEX.ZIP We also carry some file lists for the other FTP sites (but no more updated) ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/filelist/simdos-l.zip ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/filelist/cctlist.zip ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/filelist/simwin-l.zip ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/filelist/cctwnlis.zip ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/filelist/winsite.zip Also see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/news_pd2.txt selected news on MS-DOS dirs ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/0news_ts.txt all news on ts-programs A2: There is more advice on finding files in the Frequently Asked Questions collection ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsfaqn50.zip (or whatever version number is current), and the Garbo feedback files ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/tspost??.zip (where ?? = 01,02,... etc. ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/tspost00.zip contains the subject index. Also see the Frequently Asked Questions for the newsgroup news:comp.archives.msdos.announce. This FAQ collection is available as ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/camfaq.zip. A3: Please do not email "looking for a program" questions lightly to Garbo moderators. We are pleased to try to help, and your email is welcome, but we are extremely pressed for time. We simply cannot afford the effort to find programs for the users on an individual email consultation basis. Preferably post these questions to the Usenet news. E.g. news:comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted is a good newsgroup for looking for shareware, freeware and public domain MS-DOS programs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:15 1998 Subject: Files with .Z extension 15. ***** Q: I have noticed that some directories at Garbo archives include files that have a .Z extension. What are they? A: They are Unix files that are processed with compress, uncompress, and zcat. The Garbo archives are on a Unix system, and many these files are related to handling the PC files without having first to transfer them to from the Unix mainframe to the PC. Please see /unix/ts/0news_u.txt and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsfaqn50.zip (or whatever is the current version number) for more details and instructions. Also try man compress on a Unix system for information. A2: You can handle these compressed files also on your MS-DOS PC. For that you need ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/unix/comp430d.zip (or whatever version is the latest). Note for text files that Unix and MS-DOS use different eolns (end-of-lines). You may filter them properly e.g. with unix2pc.exe. You'll find this file within ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsfilt24.zip (or whatever version number is current). -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:16 1998 Subject: I cannot make the connection 16. ***** Q: What if my site does not know Garbo or connection refused? (This question comes in various formats, but the point of all the queries is that the user cannot connect to garbo). A: Garbo, the system, is managed by Sami Kinnunen (skk@uwasa.fi) and our main system poiju/reimari is managed by Hannu Hirvonen (hh@uwasa.fi) who is also our postmaster. Timo Salmi specializes in Garbo policy decisions, publicity, and MS-DOS material, not in technical Garbo system management. Nevertheless, here is some general information. In general if you are having problems in reaching Garbo (not problems with Garbo itself) the first person to contact is your own site's system manager. For example, if you might get an error message like "host unknown". This means that your own host does not know garbo.uwasa.fi. The Garbo information is missing from your site's hosts-file, and your host is not using distributed name service. There is nothing we can do about from this end. (You can try to use the IP number 193.166.120.5 in that case as a temporary measure). You might also get a more radical error message like "Access to the Scandinavian nodes has been discontinued, due to the slowness and unreliability of the network connections." Again this is a problem that has nothing to do directly with Garbo. It is probably a question of your site's net privileges and arrangements, or a problem between different networks quite beyond our control. There is more information in the item "Re: garbo: cannot map your network address to a hostname ?" in the feedback and information file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/tspost18.zip. If you have a connection, but get something like "We cannot map your network address to a hostname, if this isn't fixed soon, access from your host will be unavailable" see that file. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:17 1998 Subject: Automated downloads (see this) 17. ***** Q: The ftp session is repetitive and tedious, and the connection is not always available. Is there any way to automate getting files from Garbo by anonymous ftp. A: Yes, there is a useful facility called batchftp by Shawn Cooper, which achieves this if you have a BSD Unix system. You can get it by downloading /unix/networking/ftp/batchftp102.tar.Z (or whatever version is the latest). The package contains documentation, and also see /unix/networking/ftp/batchftp.txt and /unix/ts/0newsu93.txt for brief instructions. This system has the added advantage of cutting down the unnecessary idle time inherent in "manual" ftp connections. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:18 1998 Subject: Problems with mail server requests This item is no more valid. Garbo's mail server has been discontinued as an outmoded method of transferring the files, and because of the extra load it causes on the system. 18. ***** Q: I sent a mail server request to Garbo but I get no response at all. And I am sure that I did everything as instructed. A: In that case your, or your system's email address is probably badly configured. Please contact your own system manager. DON'T send a repeat request until your email address problem has been resolved!!! This is very important, so I repeat DON'T! (If you persist, regardless, I am afraid that we will cut your access to Garbo altogether.) What happens is this. We get your request, but when Garbo tries to honor your request to send you the file(s) by email, the email bounces back to us because of the problems in your email address. If you send repeat requests, it will just clog our postmaster with the bounced email. Try using a corrected mail address to return the requests. You can do this by adding the following command to (the body of) your message to our mail server. reply-to YourEmailAddress e.g. reply-to youruserid@yourmachine.yourdomain.yourcountry get WhateverYouWant You should contact your system manager to asses an optimized path especially if you are using UUCP or BANG paths to get your mail delivered to us. Our mail server checks the mail queue every 15 minutes so if you don't get response in a reasonable time you'd better check this one out with a little help from your friends. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:19 1998 Subject: Garbo mirrors 19. ***** Q: Are Garbo files mirrored? Which directories? How to connect? A: Garbo is mirrored at several sites on different continents. The mirrors are independent operations. Therefore you should direct any detailed questions about the mirroring to the relevant moderators of those sites, not to us. Note, however, much of what is in Appendix A on how to download the files is directly applicable to the mirrors as well. See ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/moder.zip for the mirroring sites, for preliminary information on the main mirror directories, and the mirror moderators' email addresses. Also note that there is no guarantee that the mirror will not lag even week(s) behind, _or_ might not have all the files. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:20 1998 Subject: Answer not found 20. ***** Q: The answer to my question is not in this list, what next? A: See http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html#faq A2: It depends very much on your question. Try take a look at the ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsfaqn50.zip (or whichever version is current) Frequently Asked Questions and the /pc/pd2/tspost*.zip (* = 00,01,02,...) Garbo information files. Also see /pc/pd2/camfaq.zip. If these do not help document your problem carefully. Please note that I cannot guarantee that we have the answer, or that I will have the time to look for it. I like to help, but I often simply cannot afford the time. Therefore you should save a copy of your question so that you can consider posting it to the Usenet news when relevant. ------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:51 1998 Subject: Appendix A: FTP downloading A. ***** Q: APPENDIX A: Obtaining (downloading) the Programs by FTP ========================================================== You can obtain the file(s) from garbo.uwasa.fi (193.166.120.5) using the InterNet ftp (file transfer program) with username "anonymous". For a login password use your electronic mail address. If you are using ftp from a VAX/VMS system, set case lower before proceeding. Consider as an example the programs of Timo Salmi. The files are in directory /pc/ts. At the ftp> prompt first type binary (for binary files). To go to the relevant directory apply cd /pc/ts. To see its contents apply ls or dir. To download a file, use get filename or mget filenames. The files have been packed with Unix Zip so on MS-DOS you will need PKUNZIP from PKWARE or some other unzip program to unpack them on your PC. The following contains the same information by giving the commands needed for transferring vaasa.inf (contains text on Finland, Vaasa, and University of Vaasa) and tspfon30.zip as an example. In the example its is assumed that you are calling from a Unix system. The usage for a VAX/VMS system is quite similar. ftp #Invoke the file transfer program open garbo.uwasa.fi #Connect to Garbo at the University of Vaasa anonymous #Use this name to get temporary privileges Give (at least) the first part of your email address as your password cd /pc/ts #Go to the relevant directory dir (or ls -lF) #Directory of available files ascii #vaasa.inf is an ordinary text file get vaasa.inf #Copy the file to your default directory binary #tspfon30.zip is a binary file mget tspfon*.zip #mget allows wildcards close #Terminate the connection quit #Quit the file transfer program -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:52 1998 Subject: Appendix B: Your host -> your PC B. ***** Q: APPENDIX B: Transferring the Programs to PC ============================================== Naturally, this item only applies if you first transfer the files to your mainframe host instead of directly downloading them to your PC. After you have received the files to your host, there still remains the task of transferring the programs to your PC. This is familiar to most users, but occasionally there are problems. It impossible to give advice that would cover resolving all the difficulties, but the most common can be described. The most usual file transfer method between the host and the user's PC is MsKermit. (Zmodem and others may be used as well, but I would guess that most often persons using these alternatives are advanced users, and can resolve any problems by themselves.) The most common problem is probably that after getting a packed file to one's PC, the file appears damaged. Almost always this is due to failing to set correctly the Kermit parameters at ONE or BOTH ends of the transfer. What you have to do is the following. In your host Kermit set file type binary, set parity even (or none or whatever), and in your PC MsKermit you must have the SAME parity you set for your host (select host Kermit parity on the basis of your PC's). If you fail to get these compatible, the transfer will not result in what you want. Transferring text files does not lead to problems so often. The trick is set file type text (or ascii depending on your Kermit version). Finally, if nothing else, absolutely nothing else(!), seems to resolve the problem, please let us know, and we will check that the file at our site is good and proper. -------------------- end prerecorded message -----------------------