From ts@uwasa.fi Mon Jan 6 00:00:00 2003 Subject: The status of this file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/tsans.txt Answers to some recurring questions about TS-packages which are located at http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts.html Or, with the version number included ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/tsans102.txt This file has mostly been superseded by a set of more modern-day WWW-based set FAQ pages including Miscellaneous questions, information and comments about Timo's programs etc http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html#faqtimo Some Frequently Asked Garbo Questions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html#faq Latest news about the files in /pc/ts directory ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/0news_ts.txt Answers to some frequently asked personal questions http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/personal.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:00 1998 Subject: Prerecorded answers on ts-progs The old, partly outdated information ==================================== ------------------- begin prerecorded message ---------------------- There are some frequently asked questions about the ts-programs available from garbo.uwasa.fi, by anonymous ftp and WWW from the /pc/ts directory here at the University of Vaasa, Finland, site 193.166.120.5. Below you will find some of them prerecorded with answers. Please notice that the questions / answers are not in any logical order. The order has more or less been dictated by the arriving questions. And, there is overlapping. Also please note that although these questions and answers concern the /pc/ts directory, much of the information is directly applicable to the other directories at our site. Please note the provisions of using the ts-programs. You are free to use them for your personal, private purposes, and you are free and encouraged to upload them to bulletin boards. But if you use the programs, say, at a university or a business enterprise then you must consider the programs shareware and you should contact me for the terms of a personal or a site license. If you are well familiar with FTP and mail servers please note the following. Using automated FTP (batchftp) is preferred, since it minimizes the connection time (it is convenient for you, anyway). Furthermore, use mail servers *ONLY* if you don't have the FTP potential. You might be alternatively interested in the questions and answers in the WWW format: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html#faq .................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Co-moderator of news:comp.archives.msdos.announce Moderating at ftp:// & http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ archives 193.166.120.5 Department of Accounting and Business Finance ; University of Vaasa mailto:ts@uwasa.fi ; FIN-65101, Finland Spam foiling in effect. My email filter autoresponder will return a required email password to users not yet in the privileges database. 1) What is this anonymous ftp? 2) Send file(s) to me by email. (Or how to use the mail server?) 3) Are there any other options for getting the files? 4) Send me your source codes. 5) Why won't your program run on my PC? 6) How is anonymous ftp used? 7) When I try to unpack your package, it is allegedly corrupt. 8) What are the conditions of using your programs? 9) Does any US site (nearer me) have your programs available? 10) In which Simtel.Net directories are the copies of your programs? 11) What is Garbo's guest user-id? 12) Do you have a mailing list? 13) Your programs have a .zip extension and won't run on my PC. 14) I have written some programs or papers myself. Are you interested? 15) I want a description of your programs to decide what to get. 16) Can your files be downloaded from BBSes? 17) Why don't you reply to my email messages? 18) Are there other programs besides yours on Garbo archives? 19) How are you? What do you do? What's your weather like? 20) Is there any way of automating getting the files? 21) Why doesn't your mail server respond to my correct request? ................................................................... -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:01 1998 Subject: What is anonymous FTP 1. ***** Q: I do not understand this getting files with anonymous ftp. What does it mean? A: FTP stands for file transfer program, which is a standard feature in many mainframe Unix and VAX/VMS systems (and often also available on Linux and Windows PCs). It also means that you must have a network connection to reach the University of Vaasa. Please contact your computer's system manager for more information on the connection. When this is ok, just follow the instructions in Appendix A at the end of this prerecorded message. A2: If you are familiar with the World Wide Web (using programs like Netscape, Internet Explorer, Lynx, etc) Garbo's home page URL is naturally http://garbo.uwasa.fi/ and to access the files click the appropriate button on that page. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:02 1998 Subject: Email server instructions This item is no longer valid. Garbo's mail server has been discontinued as an outmoded method of transferring the files, and because of the extra load it causes on the system. 2. ***** Q: Many of us users have no ftp access. Would you please send your programs to me by email. A: To get files sent to you by email, please use our mail server. To get more information write an email message to ftpmail@garbo.uwasa.fi. The subject line of this message can be anything, e.g. garbo-request The message must contain just the following text (at the beginning of the line): help Do not include a signature because it may confuse the server. If you do not understand, please don't send the mail server request. If you have ftp capability, please use FTP only, since it causes less load. When you get the instructions from our ftpmail, take it up from there. Please don't ask me about the problems with Garbo's mailing list that you might be having. I do not maintain Garbo's mail server and this is practically all I know about it. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:03 1998 Subject: Poor souls without FTP 3. ***** Q: Are there any other options for getting the files? A: If you have a modem, Finnish users can call Walli BBS for the files. The settings are 9600,N,8,1. When connecting the first time give "guest" as your login. This information is subject to changes. (Walli BBS has been discontinued!) -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:04 1998 Subject: Getting source codes of ts-programs 4. ***** Q: I am interested in the sources of some of your programs (or particular procedures in them). Would it be possible to get them? A: Sorry. No way. I never reveal my sources :-). But if it is Turbo Pascal sources and tricks in general that you would like to have, take a look at the extensive Turbo Pascal textbook references in ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/link/tsfaqp.zip version number). There is a veritable gold mine of useful material in those books. Furthermore, there is much useful source code e.g. in Garbo's /pc/turbopas/ directory like bonus507.zip, ifp1s158.zip, and the huge swag?-?.zip collection. You can see from the index file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/turbopas/0turbopa.zip what files the packages in that directory contain. And don't forget the demos that come with the Turbo Pascal compiler. Besides, the sources of my programs would not be as useful as you might think. Although my programs are outwardly in English, all the variables and routine names, and the program comments are in Finnish. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:05 1998 Subject: What if the ts-programs won't work 5. ***** Q: Some of your programs refuse to work on my PC. They do nothing or just confuse the screen. A: Not surprising. The ts-programs are (mostly) Turbo Pascal 5.0 and 7.0 programs written for true compatibles and the good old plain 16-bit MS-DOS. They have not been written for the present 32-bit bloated Windows systems. In particular, the programs which use advanced screen writes (inverted colors, windowing, etc) and the so called interrupts (direct access to PC's internal services) require a truly compatible PC. Most frequently the problem is in the user's non-standard video adapter hardware. A proper CGA, EGA or VGA personal computer should have no problems, but a monochrome might. (Monochrome PCs often are older and non-compatible anyway). My programs have been written for vanilla MS-DOS not 4DOS. Despite contrary claims there are incompatibilities in 4DOS. This does not concern my programs only. The problem is general. Furthermore, please see the later item "Allegedly corrupt packages". If you have problems with my programs, the first thing to do is ensure that the .zip package is intact and then try out the offending program on a truly compatible MS-DOS machine. If it does not work even then, I would be very interested in a description of the problem, preferably with a log, so that I could try to look into it. But please try it out on a compatible MS-DOS(!) PC first before you report the problem. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:06 1998 Subject: FTP transfer commands 6. ***** Q: I have the ftp (file transfer program) capability and a network access that includes your Garbo archive site. But how do I transfer the files? What are the commands? A: The information and examples in Appendix A of this message should enable you to get the files. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:07 1998 Subject: Allegedly corrupt packages 7. ***** Q: I have received your programs but the package is corrupt. When I try to unpack them with my unpacking program (pkunzip or unzip) the unpacking fails or produces files that lock my PC. A: The files with the .zip extension are binary packages and you have to use the correct transfer mode when you transfer the programs from the remote FTP site to our host, and when you transfer the files from our main frame to your PC. Most frequently the problems the users report are due to failing to set the binary mode when transferring the files from the user's host to the users PC. Please see Appendix B for more information. In 1993 there was been over four million successful downloads from Garbo. Thus it is very unlikely that the original file at Garbo really is corrupt. It is not impossible, but first check all the other possibilities. There is another common cause for allegedly corrupt packages besides failing to use the correct mode in the file transfer from the FTP site to one's own host, or in the file transfer from one's own host to one's PC. This is failing to use the correct version of the relevant archiver for archived packages. Unfortunately some of the PKUNZIP error messages are quite misleading, like "CRC error", "use pkzip 3.8 (or whatever)", "use PkZipFix". Just assure that you have transferred correctly and that are using the current version: 202574 Feb 1 1993 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe pkz204g.exe PKWARE's pkzip, pkunzip, pkzipfix, zip2exe for .zip or 247148 Nov 29 1998 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/unz540x3.exe unz540x3.exe Info-ZIP's self-extracting unzipper (with 386 version) For the Windows 3.1x environment use e.g. 629038 Sep 26 1997 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/arcers/wz16v63.exe wz16v63.exe WinZip for Win 3.1 w/Built-in ZIP, TAR, gzip, compress The World Wide Web has added the possibility of getting the files from the archive sites also with the WWW browser programs. It appears that (at least with some of the browser versions) in a long session the browser gets confused and cannot get the files in the proper format. If you are experiencing such problems, exit your browser, reload it, and then try to get the target file anew. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:08 1997 Subject: When to register ts-programs 8. ***** Q: What are the rules for using your programs. Are they freeware, PD, shareware, or what? A: See ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/register.txt A2: Some, albeit very few users have been considerate enough to ask this question. The answer is contained in the .inf document files of the programs and it is the following. You are free to use and distribute my programs as long they are used strictly for your own private non-profit purposes only. For ANY other purpose (including using at work in business enterprises, all classroom usage, university teaching, and government offices) please contact me for a registration. Let me stress one particular item, because of the liberties taken by some users in this respect. Classroom usage of my programs at any teaching institution without my explicit permission is a direct breach of my conditions and rights! A few of the packages (TSLIN linear programming, TS#ST statistics packages, and TSPELL and TSCHEK spelling checkers) are scaled-down versions. To obtain a full-scale version for any usage you will have to register. However: "I am afraid I have to breach this promise because I do not currently have the time to the registration arrangements in a manner that would make a shareware distribution of my programs worth my while. Therefore I regret to inform you that for the time being my material is not registrable for commercial or institutional usage. This also goes for public university classroom usage. The only allowed usage of my programs for my users thus is your own, private, personal, non-profit usage which does not require registration." A3: If and when you distribute my programs as acceptable under A2, I would REALLY appreciate it if you distributed the original packages unchanged (repacking with a different packing method is ok, though). Please DO NOT distribute *separately* any of the programs or files in the packages. Give out a whole package, or nothing, if you please. A4: Uploading to BBSes is solicited. As I do not place any fee on the private, non-registered versions of my programs, I would very much appreciate it if you would reciprocate by doing me the favor of uploading my program(s) to at least one bulletin board which does not have them, or has old versions. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:09 1997 Subject: What to do about busy lines to Europe 9. ***** Q: The lines to Europe are not always available. Does any site in the U.S. have your collection. A: Nevertheless, always get my files directly from the Garbo main site only. I do not actively upload my packages anywhere else! Furthermore, there is no guarantees that even the Garbo mirror sites are up to date. Simtel.Net used to have practically all my programs, often almost as soon as they come out. But this is no longer the case since Keith Petersen left Simtel. A2: Try using automated ftp. It is very convenient on Unix. See ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/ts/0newsu93.txt and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/netwroking/ftp/batchftp.txt for more information on batchftp. Warmly recommended if you have a Unix or a Linux system. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:10 1997 Subject: Simtel.Net directories of ts-progs 10. ***** Q: I would like to get your files from Simtel.Net. Send me a list telling in which directories your files are in SimTel or some other near-by FTP site. A: No! I am often asked this and other information about Simtel.Net (and other archive sites, including mirror sites). Please see the previous item. The same answer applies. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:11 1997 Subject: What is Garbo's guest user-id 11. ***** Q: Do you have a guest user-id? I cannot ftp, but I can reach your site through the net. I type anonymous at the login: and then try to give my email address at the Password:. I am not let in, but get a "Login incorrect" message instead. A: We do not accept guest users on Garbo. This means that what you tried, is not allowed at our site. The only direct ways you can get connected to our system are using the true ftp system, which is described in Appendix A, or using the World Wide Web address http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts.html . -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:12 1997 Subject: Pointer to Garbo infolist 12. ***** Q: I have noticed that you have updated your packages often. Is there any possibility of getting the update announcements mailed directly to me. A: Yes, in fact I do have a Garbo infolist mailing list for update announcements (even if I cannot accept any requests for mailing the actual packages). Especially if you are a SysOp of a BBS or a maintainer of an ftp site, you are welcome to send me a request for including you on Garbo infolist announcements mailing list. All other users are also welcome to inquire about an inclusion on this list. But first look at /pc/pd2/infolist.txt for more information, because this is not a fully open offer. For a public mailing list see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/GANN-INF.TXT -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:13 1997 Subject: How to handle .zip files 13. ***** Q: I now have your files, but they have this .zip extension and they won't run then I write their name at my DOS prompt. A: Please do not be offended, but this seems a problem of a PC novice. The files are packed (also called archived) entities. This is a special format of compressing files and packing several files together. This really is standard knowledge for PC users, and if you are not familiar with the system, just ask a knowledgeable fellow user. As to my files, as well other .zip files, you can handle the with a program called PKUNZIP with comes with pkz204g.exe, and even some others. All the major (un)packing programs for MS-DOS are available in the /pc/arcers and the /windows/arcers directories: 202574 Feb 1 1993 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe pkz204g.exe PKWARE's pkzip, pkunzip, pkzipfix, zip2exe for .zip or 247148 Nov 29 1998 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/arcers/unz540x3.exe unz540x3.exe Info-ZIP's self-extracting unzipper (with 386 version) For unzippping under the Windows 3.1x environment use e.g. 629038 Sep 26 1997 ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/arcers/wz16v63.exe wz16v63.exe WinZip for Win 3.1 w/Built-in ZIP, TAR, gzip, compress Note that if you use an out of date PKUNZIP version, it may report a CRC error in your .zip file although the true reason for your problems is using the out of date version. Likewise, if you have failed to transfer the file in the binary mode, you may get an unexpected, illogical error message like "requires PKUNZIP 3.0 or higher version". -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:14 1997 Subject: Upload instructions 14. ***** Q: I have written some programs myself which I think might be of general interest. Or I have obtained this fabulous program which I think would be of general interest. Or I have a more recent version of this program than you have on your archives. Or I have this scientific paper I would like to submit to your repository. Would it be possible to upload them to your system. A: Please see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPLOAD.TXT and /pc/UPTEXT.TXT for the full information on this question. In brief, we welcome quality MS-DOS uploads in many but not all categories. Please READ THIS MATERIAL VERY CAREFULLY BEFORE UPLOADING to Garbo. Following the instructions will save your own and our time. First please check http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbinfo/garb1996.html "What is Garbo's current incoming uploads open/closed status?" -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:15 1997 Subject: Need file descriptions 15. ***** Q: Is there a description of the ts-programs? I would like to have some information on the files before I start transferring them. A: Yes, certainly. This approach is even recommended. There is ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP (with MS-DOS eolns). It contains detailed information of the contents of each package in the /pc/ts directory. Also see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/0news_ts.txt -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:16 1997 Subject: Getting ts-programs from BBSes 16. ***** Q: Can your files be downloaded from BBSes? A: Please see item #9. A2: Yes, they seem to have made their way to many BBSes thanks to helpful Garbo users. However, the you can assure obtaining the latest versions of my programs only from Garbo archives directly. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:17 1997 Subject: Problems with sending replies 17. ***** Q: I sent you a message a couple of weeks ago. Did you receive it? Why don't you reply? A: I try to reply to all queries I have received. But getting the reply to you successfully is not always technically possible. The reason for this is that the reply-address which the email program gives, is sometimes not adequate. My reply bounces back to me as a consequence. I am afraid that I get so much email that if my reply bounces I simply can't afford the time to try to do anything at all about it. Not even to look if your email message contains an alternative address. So if you don't hear from me within five days, contact your own system manager. Ask him/her to see to it that your email address in your message header is a returnable address. A2: Please see http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbinfo/garb3040.html and http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/spamfoil.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:18 1997 Subject: What else is on Garbo archives 18. ***** Q: Are there any other PC programs at Garbo archives than the ts-programs? A: Yes, indeed. There is a great number of shareware, freeware and public domain and PC programs at Garbo. Get the file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEX.ZIP for the annotated list of our MS-DOS files. Also get ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/news_pd2.txt and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/0news_ts.txt for selected news and reviews on new uploads. For Windows 3.x files see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/WINDEX.ZIP. For Windows 95 files see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/win95/W95INDEX.ZIP. For our Unix files see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/UINDEX.ZIP and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/ts/0news_u.txt For the Sinclair QL files see ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/ql/0news_ql.txt -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:19 1997 Subject: How are you, what's the weather like 19. ***** Q: I would like to ask you some personal questions and/or know more about Finland and Vaasa. What kind of weather do you have over there? What is your field? How come you are interested in programming? What are the main fields of University of Vaasa, and so on? A: Please see http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/personal.html A2: It is very nice of you to ask. I hope that you understand that for practical reasons (an FTP site moderator's load) it is difficult for me to reply individually to these friendly questions. Instead, I have to refer you to my WWW home page http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/ its many links and to some material available in Garbo's /pc/ts/ directory. The file ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/vaasa.inf will give you information about Finland, Vaasa, the University of Vaasa, our faculty, and even me. Also see vaasa2.inf. The gif pictures ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/gif/euro01e.gif and euro01v.gif will show you where Vaasa is located. As for my own background, please see my home page and the current ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/ts/vaasa.inf, then tsfcom.inf which is part of the /pc/ts/tsfcom24.zip package. I have also put in writing some of my thoughts on programming in tsgmeb.inf in the /pc/ts/tsgmeb17.zip package. You also might be interested in ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/pd2/garbohis.zip. Additionally, some items in the Garbo information files /pc/pd2/tspost*.zip (* = 01,02,...) would be of interest you. The file tspost00.zip gives the index. A3: If you wish to ask questions about Finland, the Finnish language or the Finnish culture, please post your questions to news:soc.culture.nordic. Even if I very much like to communicate, and try to be of help, I am usually far too pressed for time. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:20 1997 Subject: Automated downloads (see this!) 20. ***** Q: The ftp session is repetitive and tedious, and the connection is not always available. Is there any way to automate getting files from Garbo archives by anonymous ftp. A: Yes, there is a useful facility called batchftp by Shawn Cooper, which achieves this if you have a BSD Unix system. You can get it by downloading /unix/ftp/batchftp102.tar.Z (or whatever version is the latest). The package contains documentation, and also see /unix/ftp/batchftp.txt and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/ts/0newsu93.txt for brief instructions. This system has the added advantage of cutting down the unnecessary idle time inherent in "manual" ftp connections. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:21 1997 Subject: Problems with mail server requests This item is no more valid. Garbo's mail server has been discontinued as an outmoded method of transferring the files, and because of the extra load it causes on the system. 21. ***** Q: I sent a mail server request to Garbo but I get no response at all. And I am sure that I did everything as instructed. A: In that case your, or your system's, email address is probably badly configured. Please contact your own system manager. DON'T send a repeat request until your email address problem has been resolved!!! This is very important, so I repeat DON'T! (If you persist, regardless, I am afraid that we will cut your access to Garbo altogether.) What happens is this. We get your request, but when Garbo tries to honor your request to send you the file(s) by email, the email bounces back to us because of the problems in your email address. If you send repeat requests, it will just clog our postmaster with the bounced email. Try using a corrected mail address to return the requests. You can do this by adding the following command to (the body of) your message to our mail server. reply-to YourEmailAddress e.g. reply-to youruserid@yourmachine.yourdomain.yourcountry get WhateverYouWant You should contact your system manager to asses an optimized path especially if you are using UUCP or BANG paths to get your mail delivered to us. Our mail server checks the mail queue every 15 minutes so if you don't get response in a reasonable time you'd better check this one out with a little help from your friends. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:51 1997 Subject: Appendix A: FTP downloading A. ***** Q: APPENDIX A: Obtaining the Programs by Timo Salmi via InterNet ================================================================ You can obtain the file(s) from garbo.uwasa.fi (193.166.120.5) using the InterNet ftp (file transfer program) with username "anonymous". For a login password use your electronic mail address. If you are using ftp from a VAX/VMS system, set case lower before proceeding. The files are in directory /pc/ts. At the ftp> prompt first type binary (for binary files). To go to the relevant directory apply cd /pc/ts. To see its contents apply ls or dir. To download a file, use get filename or mget filenames. The files have been packed with Unix Zip so you will need PKUNZIP from PKWARE or some other unzip program to unpack them on your PC. The following contains the same information by giving the commands needed for transferring vaasa.inf (contains text on Finland, Vaasa, and University of Vaasa) and tspfon30.zip as an example. In the example its is assumed that you are calling from a Unix system. The usage for a VAX/VMS system is quite similar. It is recommended that you get ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEX.ZIP and ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP for more information of what is in the packages. ftp #Invoke the file transfer program open garbo.uwasa.fi #Connect to Garbo at the University of Vaasa anonymous #Use this name to get temporary privileges Give (at least) the first part of your email address as your password cd /pc/ts #Go to the relevant directory dir (or ls -lF) #Directory of available files ascii #vaasa.inf is an ordinary text file get vaasa.inf #Copy the file to your default directory binary #tspfon30.zip is a binary file mget tspfon*.zip #mget allows wildcards close #Terminate the connection quit #Quit the file transfer program -------------------------------------------------------------------- From ts@uwasa.fi Tue May 26 00:00:52 1997 Subject: Appendix B: Your host -> your PC B. ***** Q: APPENDIX B: Transferring the Programs to PC ============================================== Naturally, this item only applies if you first transfer the files to your mainframe host instead of directly downloading them to your PC. After you have received the files to your host, there still remains the task of transferring the programs to your PC. This is familiar to most users, but occasionally there are problems. It impossible to give advice that would cover resolving all the difficulties, but the most common can be described. The most usual file transfer method between the host and the user's PC is MsKermit. (Zmodem and others may be used as well, but I would guess that most often persons using these alternatives are advanced users, and can resolve any problems by themselves.) The most common problem is probably that after getting a packed file to one's PC, the file appears damaged. Almost always this is due to failing to set correctly the Kermit parameters at ONE or BOTH ends of the transfer. What you have to do is the following. In your host Kermit set file type binary, set parity even (or none or whatever), and in your PC MsKermit you must have the SAME parity you set for your host (select host Kermit parity on the basis of your PC's). If you fail to get these compatible, the transfer will not result in what you want. Transferring text files does not lead to problems so often. The trick is set file type text (or ascii depending on your Kermit version). Finally, if nothing else, absolutely nothing else(!), seems to resolve the problem, please let me know, and I will check that the file at our site is good and proper. -------------------- end prerecorded message -----------------------